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Jack Ruby
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Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
... As well as the best Thomas Harris' film adaptation by a longshot?

Taking no disrespect Silence and that film (it was quite good for what it was) but Brian Cox's Dr. Lecktor, William Peterson as Will Graham, and the scariness of Francis Dollarhyde are all, to me, much better as a whole under Michael Mann's hand than Demme.

There's just something about Manhunter and that soundtrack that just stay with you where Silence does not.
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UndercoverBryologist
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
I have them about both equal. They’re such different movies, but for some reason they both closely match the picture I had in my head while reading their corresponding novels.

I do think Anthony Hopkins’s Lecter has diminished in my opinion since watching Brian Cox’s and later Mads Mikkelson’s interpretation of the character.


PhilipMarlowe
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
It’s too rooted in the 80s for me to love it. I still like it, and recommend it, but I prefer silence of the lambs as a movie. I’m not a reader of Harris’ novels so I can’t speak to that aspect.

Also William Petersen kind of ruins it for me. I wish someone else was cast in that role. I do like Tom Noonan as dollarhyde & Cox as Hannibal though.


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DaleGribble
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Red Dragon was a more interesting book too, from what I can remember.


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pevetohead
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Manhunter doesn’t get enough love as being one of the quintessential 80s films. Top tier filmmaking. William Petersen gives an incredible and haunting performance. God tier acting, he steals the show. Tom Noonan is AMAZING as the tooth fairy. Brian Cox is totally different than Hopkins’ Lecter BUT I think his portrayal fits the tone of Munhunter. Brilliant performance nonetheless.


Also I think Nicolas Winding Refn took plenty inspiration from Manhunter for Drive (2011)


Michael T. Tiger
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Would it not be better to compare Manhunter to Red Dragon? Silence is a much different film, and obviously for Red Dragon Hopkins’ role was expanded. Pretty confident that William Peterson got the CSI Gil Grissom role because of Manhunter.


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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
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Brian Cox's Dr. Lecktor, William Peterson as Will Graham, and the scariness of Francis Dollarhyde are all, to me, much better as a whole under Michael Mann's hand than Demme.


Considering how poor Foster looks (particularly in hindsight) relative to the critical acclaim she earned, Sir Anthony, Glenn and Levine are all far more responsible for how well the film is received over the years. Problem is: Foster was playing sort of straight (pardon the pun), quaint even. The other 3 were over the top. Demme must be held partially responsible for this uneven keel the film had in that regard.

Manhunter is a far, far more intense, realistic, gritty film that is more neo-noir or psychological thriller than horror - at the end of the day and - difficult to say the acting is better when one considers Sir Anthony and Levine (underrated and often overlooked, but he was A+ as Buffalo Bill), but certainly more balanced - Peterson was much more of a match for Cox's Lecktor than Foster was for Hopkins' Lecter. Mann kept Manhunter at a much more even keel.

So, they're different films and offer different experiences. I don't really care for "horror" films, so I prefer Manhunter, but recognize the genius of Silence.


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Havoc
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Hard call because they’re different styles. Certainly Peterson as Graham. A push on Lector.

I think I prefer Manhunter overall.i like the more emotional 80s-esque music/soundtrack heavy version.


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Freauxzen
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
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Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'



No. I don't think it's "much" better, but it is the better, more interesting film. Lambs is good for Hopkins' take, but that's about it (and even then Cox's is better).


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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
I love Manhunter and have always thought it was overlooked, especially after the release of Silence. But these movies are so different, I wouldn't say one was better than the other.

I saw Manhunter and Silence in the theater when they were released. Never read the books, and was completely unfamiliar with the characters. Hell, when I saw Silence, I didn't realize it was based on the same series of books as Manhunter until sometimes later.

I never thought Manhunter effectively established Lecktor as this super menace. Cox played it well, but it didn't really work for me. Hopkins' portrayal did work. Yes, it was over the top, but it was necessary for a character (who I didn't think I knew anything about) that had so little screen time. Also think it hurt the sequels where he had more screen time, but it was perfect for Silence.

Both Dollarhyde and Buffalo Bill were great supporting bad guys, but Ted Levine's performance was a masterpiece. Paradoxically, I think that creepiness hurt his career, whereas Hopkins got a boost.

Finally, I will always love Manhunter for being the first use of Ina Godda da Vida, and to great effect too.


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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
In no way is that film better than silence of the lambs.


dawgdayafternoon
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
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Also I think Nicolas Winding Refn took plenty inspiration from Manhunter for Drive (2011)

I can see that... with the lighting and use of color are outstanding, and both often use the visuals and music to do the storytelling.

Manhunter and SOTL are great in their own ways.


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tigerinthebueche
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
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In no way is that film better than silence of the lambs.


This. Nothing that followed Silence was ever better than Silence (as far as being of the same genealogy).


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Rza32
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
yes


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shutterspeed
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Manhunter is the better film.

You don’t know nothing bout no “Strong As I Am.”


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Globetrotter747
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
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I do think Anthony Hopkins’s Lecter has diminished in my opinion since watching Brian Cox’s and later Mads Mikkelson’s interpretation of the character.

I think Hopkins was 1,000 times better in Silence than Hannibal and Red Dragon for a couple of reasons:

1. Silence is a better movie than the other two, especially concerning Lecter's character. His cell and cell block are creepy and intimidating and hearing about what he's done (disfiguring the nurse and eating her tongue, eating the census taker's liver, following Chilton until he disappears into the crowd) sometimes can be scarier than actually seeing it. Everyone brought their A game in Silence, including Tally (screenwriter) and Demme (director).

2. Hopkins was in his early 50s in Silence. He was thin in the face, fit, dark hair, and just the right age to be a mentor of sorts to someone in their mid/late 20s (like Clarice) while still appearing vigorous and physically formidable. When Hannibal and Red Dragon were filmed Hopkins was in his early/mid 60s, looked old, and had put on some weight. He just didn't have the same presence anymore.

Hopkins in Silence is kind of like the '85 Bears or '19 LSU in that their greatness might not have sustained over time but for one year they were arguably the best ever. Similarly, I think Cox and Mads were as good or better than the Hopkins we saw in Hannibal and Red Dragon - but not even close to Silence.


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Carson123987
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
I prefer it


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RLDSC FAN
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
Not at all. Manhunter is a very good film.


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Lima Whiskey
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
I like Manhunter better.


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Sayre
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re: Spinoff: Am I the only who thinks 'Manhunter' is much better than 'Silence of the Lambs?'
I've been saying it for years. Manhunter is the best of the bunch.


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