re: Spider-Man NWH - Official Spidey SPOILERS Thread

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As I said in one of the 1st few pages in this thread, it was a good movie. But did it not bother anybody just how stupid it was for spider man to leave before everyone's memory was wiped?

I mean just stay there. It would be semi easy to have her believe the story if you're there dressed as spiderman talking to her on a broken statue of liberty than it would be to slowly have to creep back in her life by going to a donut shop for who knows how long to get to know her again. Is thee a reasonable explanation for that?

Also, is it like he was completely wiped from everyones memory, not just those that knew him as Spiderman? So nobody at school, or anywhere for that matter, is going to have any idea who he is?

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Look there were prisoner of the moment reactions here, because of Daredevil and the multiverse Spider-Men. This movie had some great moments. Mays death sequence, Garfields overall performance, Holland’s performance was pretty stellar. The mirror dimension fight.

It also had some big plot holes.

I rewatched Homecoming after this one. It’s the Superior Spider-Man.

Just going over the thread, it looks like multiple people have had the gripe. Also, I asked if there was an explanation or a good reason for him to leave. I dont see you have an answer.

He left because the whole theme of the first 20 minutes of the movie was how much their lives were ruined simply for being close to Spiderman. He loves them, so he is trying to protect them by keeping his distance.

It would seem like he'd be employable as some sort of muscle depending on how hard up for cash he gets.

Which could back door him into a Kingpin storyline depending on what he accidentally finds himself tasked with doing. After all they did just introduce Daredevil

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There’s always going to be big plotholes when multiverses, time travel, and mass amnesia are being utilized in a story, especially when they are trying to tie together stories made by three different studios that were never intended to interact with each other.

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Never said it was some deal breaker, I said it was a good movie, and its a comic book movie, I didnt expect it to be flawless. Doesn't change the fact that it was just an obvious common sense flaw/something they just want you to ignore. Which is what most people are doing.

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This is pretty much the closest thing to perfection one could ask for.

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Hopefully you're just talking about comic books movies.

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It would seem like he'd be employable as some sort of muscle depending on how hard up for cash he gets.

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Since this seems to take place from FFM (6 months after Endgame-22) to Christmas of Peters Senior Year 2023-2024 I would think Avengers compound is set up again. He could literally just go introduce himself to Banner. Or Sam Wilson.

Also, does Stephen forget Ned has the magic touch?

I think there’s a failsafe for Strange to remember. Or Wong.

And as previously mentioned, Danvers and Fury are off world. They know who he is.

They could go any number of ways for the magic to work, it's magic after all. The thrust of it is though that Peter is alone and will have to make his way only on his own abilities and experience, so though I'm sure eventually we will get the enchantment broken for some people it will be at least a movie or two. I wouldn't bet on the spell, which affected people across the multiverse, only affecting people on earth. So Fury and Danvers probably won't remember him.

Now a being like Vision may not be affected. They probably won't cross paths but it's an interesting thought. I haven't read enough comics to know if the spell would work on him or not, especially without the mind stone.

Saw it today. Very good movie which hit the right notes. Well acted, well directed and moved the MCU storyline along nicely.

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I mean just stay there. It would be semi easy to have her believe the story if you're there dressed as spiderman talking to her on a broken statue of liberty than it would be to slowly have to creep back in her life by going to a donut shop for who knows how long to get to know her again. Is thee a reasonable explanation for that?

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It's a legitimate question, but one I am able to reconcile rather easily for myself. There are a couple of ways that you can fanwank this.

As someone else has mentioned, a strong one is that Peter realized how much danger and life disruption he was putting MJ and Ned in by having them share his secret. This would also explain why he went back on the explicit promise he made to MJ to do everything he could to remind her of what they had. (He really didn't even try when he went to the donut shop - which you know will piss her off if she ever does remember).

Another possibility could be that he may have been concerned that standing there before them unmasked as the spell was being cast could have somehow interfered with the efficacy of the spell. That may have been a small chance, but do you really want to take any chances at that point in time?

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It would seem like he'd be employable as some sort of muscle depending on how hard up for cash he gets.


Since this seems to take place from FFM (6 months after Endgame-22) to Christmas of Peters Senior Year 2023-2024 I would think Avengers compound is set up again. He could literally just go introduce himself to Banner. Or Sam Wilson

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For the next Marvel movie that would be an option.

The next Sony Spider-Man movies may or may not use other Avengers depending on what's being negotiated. The end of the movie gave it a very New York wall crawler feeling rather than the next leader of the Avengers the previous film implied.

I dunno if we're going to see him involved with the Fantastic Four, Daredevil, or Venom in the next stand alone. All of those possibilities are available

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As someone else has mentioned, a strong one is that Peter realized how much danger and life disruption he was putting MJ and Ned in by having them share his secret. This would also explain why he went back on the explicit promise he made to MJ to do everything he could to remind her of what they had. (He really didn't even try when he went to the donut shop - which you know will piss her off if she ever does remember).

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That's a good answer, but just for the debates sake...

He's creeping back in her life, history is just going to repeat itself. Next time around it will go on forever with her not finding out he is spiderman? If he's doing it to truly protect her, then just let her go. That would be hard to do, but it would be a sacrifice that would make sure she is not in danger. Like you say, if he does try to tell her, it would probably poss her off, so he should have just went ahead and explained it when it happened and saved everybody some time and frustration.

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Another possibility could be that he may have been concerned that standing there before them unmasked as the spell was being cast could have somehow interfered with the efficacy of the spell. That may have been a small chance, but do you really want to take any chances at that point in time?

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This one I don't buy into as much because he could have gone off for 2 minutes and come right back. After the spell MJ and Ned had to have looked at their surroundings and been like umm, wtf is going on right now, why are we on a broken piece of the statue of liberty" with I'm guessing no idea how or why they were there.