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re: SOUND OF FREEDOM
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Even scaling back from the extreme (SRA), the concept of "Strange Danger" has been quite pervasive since I was a child (mid-late 80s). Effectively this is debunked as a real threat
This concept saved my life when I was a child.
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:09 am to alumiknotty
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This concept saved my life when I was a child.
Hopefully not similar to the moms on Facebook saving countless lives by making posts on Facebook anytime Hispanic men are in stores the moms believe they don't belong.
Again, go back to what I posted. Does this happen? Sure. Is it EXTREMELY rare? Absolutely. Focusing on "Stranger Danger" allowed countless family members and friends of the family to abuse children for decades. If you want to stop children from being sexually abused, the first place that needs focus is on your own family members.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:11 am to Jester
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God's children is cult language
Seems pretty innocuous to me.
I mean, if you buy into the God thing, it stands to reason that those made in HIS image are all his children.
But is that all you've got? Regarding Jim Caviezel, I mean?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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If you want to stop children from being sexually abused, the first place that needs focus is on your own family members.
So just ignore the extremely lucrative and tragic industry of trafficking young ones until ...what, exactly? We have a federal monitor in each and every home, to ensure no one raises a hand or speaks harshly to a child?
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:16 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:20 am to STigers
Jeremy Jahns endorsed it as a movie worth watching. I might check it out but it seems like a quick trip to bummer town.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Hopefully not similar to the moms on Facebook saving countless lives by making posts on Facebook anytime Hispanic men are in stores the moms believe they don't belong.
No, as in a man tried to lure me into his vehicle with candy when I was playing outside alone. It happens.
Yes abuse is a problem in families and organizations as well, but that doesn’t negate what almost happened to me and those who weren’t so fortunate.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:21 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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So just ignore the extremely lucrative and tragic industry of trafficking y
Uh...no? Do you think that society can only focus on one issue at a time?
But, on that note, you should look up the stats on domestic trafficking starting at the home. Focusing on family is focusing on trafficking.
The fact that you can't conceptualize this kind of shows how powerful the grift is, in real time, FWIW.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:22 am to alumiknotty
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but that doesn’t negate what almost happened to me
I didn't say it did. You forgot to quote this:
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Does this happen? Sure. Is it EXTREMELY rare? Absolutely. Focusing on "Stranger Danger" allowed countless family members and friends of the family to abuse children for decades. If you want to stop children from being sexually abused, the first place that needs focus is on your own family members.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
you seem very worried this is going to galvanize people into what will essentially amount to ghost hunting. That may be a valid concern, but I personally don’t see the harm in shining a light on (apparently) true stories so long as people exist who work to contextualize them. If you guys are on the record and people who are emotionally stirred by this movie are also aware they ought to stay more vigilant in the domestic setting, is there a problem?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:22 am to Ross
Yes. I'm at the vet now so I can't get the quote as easily but these moral panics actually hurt anti-trafficking efforts. If you give me a second I'll go find the post to copy here
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
You leap to one conclusion after another in record time, don't you?
This isn't a "grift". That's not what the word means.
If I have to break it all down for you, this is going to become tedious very quickly.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:17 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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As has been mentioned, this movie was written & made years ago, well before QAnon was even a thing.
So can you cite where these claims specifically have been made by the actor? With regards to adrenochrome .
And what if it is true?
Having heard only a handful of interviews, that specific angle of this story was never brought up. It was simply the trafficking of young ones.
Isn’t that enough?
That's my point, there's no criticism of the movie. The criticism is of comments recently made by caveziel while promoting the movie.
I read one of the reviews that linked the movie to q-anon, and even that review explicitly stated that there is absolutely nothing political about the movie.
Eta- I just watched a segment of his interview with Shawn Ryan. This dude is nuts.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:51 am to STigers
A strong and necessary message destroyed by its own backers. Ballard and Caviezel are Q-Anon nutballs (by their own words). This is one of those situations where the messenger shoots himself.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:01 am to Locoguan0
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A strong and necessary message destroyed by its own backers. Ballard and Caviezel are Q-Anon nutballs (by their own words). This is one of those situations where the messenger shoots himself.
If someone is advocating against child trafficking, and another person ignores that advocacy and instead focused on WHY that person advocates against child trafficking, one of those people is certainly a problem.
I think who someone thinks is the problem says a lot about them.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:06 am to imjustafatkid
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If someone is advocating against child trafficking, and another person ignores that advocacy and instead focused on WHY that person advocates against child trafficking, one of those people is certainly a problem.
I think who someone thinks is the problem says a lot about them.
Well, are people advocating we shouldn't be trying to prevent child trafficking, or against conspiracy theorists who accuse their political opponents of being pedophiles?
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:07 am to imjustafatkid
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imjustafatkid
The issue is that caveziel is undermining and distracting from the positive message.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:12 am to STigers
Continues to do well at the box office
LINK
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Even with Cruise driving motorcycles off cliffs and chasing criminals around Europe, there is perhaps a more remarkable box office narrative continuing to unfold this weekend. Angel Studios’ “Sound of Freedom” continues to show strength as a bona fide word-of-mouth monster. Major studios are projecting a $23 million haul through the weekend — which would mark a sizable 17% uptick from its gross last weekend
LINK
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:35 am to 632627
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The issue is that caveziel is undermining and distracting from the positive message.
No, he isn't.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:37 am to ohiovol
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Well, are people advocating we shouldn't be trying to prevent child trafficking, or against conspiracy theorists who accuse their political opponents of being pedophiles?
Yes.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:48 am to imjustafatkid
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No, he isn't
Of course he is, hence the negative reviews and liberals mostly ignoring the movie.
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