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re: Something I never realized about Pulp Fiction
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:52 pm to rebelrouser
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:52 pm to rebelrouser
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It was personal for Marcellus and having four guys waiting around in a little apartment is a little bit conspicuous. The better question is why did Marcellus leave his MAC-10 on the counter when he went for coffee?
He was there because Jules just walked away from the job.
Marsellus was still armed. When Butch ran into him he was wearing a shoulder hoslter under his concealing garment. It concealed his big arse .45 until he decided to shoot at Butch with it.
Vincent did not draw a weapon while shitting and reading in the bathroom. We know Vincent is a dumbass and Marsellus is not.
These were Tarantino’s methods to show us it was Vincent’s MAC-10 on the counter.
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:53 pm to Willie Stroker
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According to the trivia track on the Pulp Fiction DVD and widely accepted fan analysis, Marsellus Wallace left the MAC-10 on the kitchen counter.
Why it was there: Marsellus was staking out Butch's apartment with Vincent Vega, but left to get breakfast (coffee and donuts) for them. The MAC-10, being a submachine gun with a suppressor, was hard to conceal, so he left it behind while he went to get food.
The Scenario: Vincent Vega was in the bathroom when Butch returned to his apartment, allowing Butch to grab the weapon.
Proof: Immediately after Butch kills Vincent and drives away, he encounters Marsellus walking back to the apartment holding coffee and donuts.
While some viewers mistakenly believe it was Vincent’s gun because he was the one who got killed, the consensus (and DVD trivia) clarifies that the gun belonged to the mob boss himself.
According to AI. Also: Marcellus MAC-10. Also, Marcellus sidearm was a Smith & Wesson 4506. Vincent owned the nickel plated 1911.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:44 pm to keks tadpole
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Why did Macellus Wallace leave Vincent alone in Butch's apartment?
A better question would be why did he leave his gun on the counter. Another question would be how didn't he hear Butch rummaging around looking for something to eat.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:04 pm to moontigr
Yeah, a bit of a flaw in the script. The first time I saw Pulp Fiction I thought what hitman , waiting on a man to possibly come back to his own apartment, wouldn't have his firearm with him 24/7? It's possible, of course, just not likely.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:02 pm to JackDempsey
It's kind of interesting, a few of the major moments of the movie happen when Vincent is in the washroom. The robbery at the diner, Mia OD'ing on the drugs in his coat pocket, and then Butch getting the drop on him at the apartment.
Another interesting thing is that Vincent survives getting shot at by divine intervention, the miracle that saves him and Jules. Then through sheer ignorance and carelessness, Vincent accidentally shoots a guy in the head, killing him, when the car hits a bump. Whereas Jules normally would have killed Ringo, but spares his life after having experienced the miracle.
Jules felt the touch of God, has a moment of clarity and retires to walk the earth, like Caine in Kung Fu. Vincent thinks it was a freak occurrence, peculiar but not a miracle, and again through ignorance and carelessness, gets killed by Butch.
Another interesting thing is that Vincent survives getting shot at by divine intervention, the miracle that saves him and Jules. Then through sheer ignorance and carelessness, Vincent accidentally shoots a guy in the head, killing him, when the car hits a bump. Whereas Jules normally would have killed Ringo, but spares his life after having experienced the miracle.
Jules felt the touch of God, has a moment of clarity and retires to walk the earth, like Caine in Kung Fu. Vincent thinks it was a freak occurrence, peculiar but not a miracle, and again through ignorance and carelessness, gets killed by Butch.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:09 pm to Big Fat Guy
I originally replied because you mentioned a flaw in the script.
I watched the first ten or fifteen minutes of Kill Bill Vol. 1 because it's free with ads on YouTube and--
when Vivica Fox has the cereal box with the hidden gun and shoots at Uma, she only takes one shot.
Maybe Tarantino didn't want a direct callback to the miracle from Pulp Fiction? Where the guy shoots a bunch of bullets and misses all of them.
Regardless, it's pretty unbelievable that she would only take one shot and then Uma has enough time to kick the coffee mug at her and throw the knife into her heart.
I watched the first ten or fifteen minutes of Kill Bill Vol. 1 because it's free with ads on YouTube and--
when Vivica Fox has the cereal box with the hidden gun and shoots at Uma, she only takes one shot.
Maybe Tarantino didn't want a direct callback to the miracle from Pulp Fiction? Where the guy shoots a bunch of bullets and misses all of them.
Regardless, it's pretty unbelievable that she would only take one shot and then Uma has enough time to kick the coffee mug at her and throw the knife into her heart.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:46 am to Big Fat Guy
Here’s some deep dig into Vincent’s bathroom habits I heard on a podcast one time:
Heroin makes you constipated. That’s why Vincent is always in the bathroom. Thus, he died because of his addiction. But not of an overdose.
Heroin makes you constipated. That’s why Vincent is always in the bathroom. Thus, he died because of his addiction. But not of an overdose.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:03 am to TygerTyger
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Is heroine usually packaged in balloons?
With this knowledge, go back and listen to Black Balloon by Goo Goo Dolls.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:05 am to Big Fat Guy
That always bothered me as well. I thought that someone as badass as Vivica's character was supposed to be would not have missed that shot from that distance.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:24 am to moontigr
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I thought that someone as badass as Vivica's character was supposed to be would not have missed that shot from that distance.
She was shooting a gun through a fricking box of cereal without any aim
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:37 am to DR93Berlin
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His name was Brett, but SLJ said Brad, kinda saying I don’t care what your name is
What? That's not true at all. He 100% said Brett.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 8:30 am to rebelrouser
Marsellus knows Vincent is a dumbass. No way he leaves his primary method of murder on the counter with dumbass Vincent.
I think a more puzzling question is if given a choice to trust Vincent to successfully murder Butch in Butch’s apartment or go get coffee and donuts, why not send Vincent to get breakfast?
Marsellus already takes the responsibility to replace Jules. If he is willing to take THAT responsibility, surely he also takes the responsibility to be the one to kill Butch and let Vincent just be the wingman.
I think a more puzzling question is if given a choice to trust Vincent to successfully murder Butch in Butch’s apartment or go get coffee and donuts, why not send Vincent to get breakfast?
Marsellus already takes the responsibility to replace Jules. If he is willing to take THAT responsibility, surely he also takes the responsibility to be the one to kill Butch and let Vincent just be the wingman.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 11:18 am to baybeefeetz
...and Vincent was taking a shite before he got executed by Butch, because heroin makes you constipated.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 4/25/26 at 11:46 am to Willie Stroker
I'm not sure I get the supposed difficulty people have. Absent mindedly setting your gun down in the kitchen while you go to take a dump seems like a trivially easy mistake anyone could make. Especially if you've been extremely bored staking out an apartment for hours on end.
It's hard to remain 100% vigilant in such a situation, especially if you've likely convinced yourself nobody is ever showing up.
It's hard to remain 100% vigilant in such a situation, especially if you've likely convinced yourself nobody is ever showing up.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:57 pm to bbap
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What? That's not true at all. He 100% said Brett.
Yeah, he’s says Brett. I’ve heard people try to say he says Brad on that line, but I’ve watched the movie way too many times and have only ever heard him say Brett. He does elongate it and is mid-eating though, which I guess makes it sound weird
Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:01 pm to Willie Stroker
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Marsellus knows Vincent is a dumbass. No way he leaves his primary method of murder on the counter with dumbass Vincent.
I think everyone assumes that he's not going to go back to his house, which is the whole point of the absurdity of him having to go back for the watch. That's the entire point they had to establish why the watch was so valuable with the Christopher Walken introduction scene.
If they don't expect him to ever come back, that's exactly the type of guy that you sent to do the job, and it's entirely understandable that Vincent would not think Butch was ever coming home and was lax in his behavior.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:06 pm to upgrade
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Why did Marcellus Wallace really throw Tony Rocky Horror out of a window?
Only two people know. Marcellus and Tony.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I think everyone assumes that he's not going to go back to his house, which is the whole point of the absurdity of him having to go back for the watch. That's the entire point they had to establish why the watch was so valuable with the Christopher Walken introduction scene.
You’re overlooking the setup, and not seeing the obvious. Why is Butch angry at the broad who only gives a shite about blueberry pancakes?
He’s angry because he knows the risk. He knows there’s a chance they WILL be looking for him to go back to his apartment. He’s a washed up, stupid boxer. Only stupid people get into boxing because smart people don’t want head injuries.
He did not want to go back to the apartment because he knows Marsellus Wallace. He knows enough to know the risk that Marsellus will expect him to return to the apartment and Tarantino makes it obvious that Butch is being extra careful in his return. He even celebrates his ability to “outsmart” Vincent AND Marsellus. He’s celebrating that he was able to accurately anticipate that Marsellus will be trying to kill him at his own apartment.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 2:22 pm
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