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re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - Official Discussion Thread (Spoilers)
Posted on 9/5/21 at 9:35 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 9/5/21 at 9:35 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Those darn 1980s characters being all SJW.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 9:58 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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My point was that I have no interest in a female hulk
Then you have no knowledge of the character. Jen Walters is an awesome character, both hulked and not.
Bruce Banner is terrified of the Hulk. Jennifer Walters embraces it.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 10:01 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Doesn’t mean anyone wants to see that on the screen.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 10:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
She Hulk is derivative and lazy. Could she be interesting? Sure. Do I trust them to make her interesting and entertaining? Absolutely not.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:54 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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She Hulk is derivative and lazy.
She's been a member of the Fantastic Four and is a trial lawyer.
In her comics she actually cites previous comics as evidence.
There's a famous line from her when Tony Stark depowers her. She basically told him that he's completely fricked because, as She-Hulk, she can beat him to a pulp, but as Jennifer Walters, she can ruin his life...and she sics the SEC on him and has his assets frozen.
Tatiana Maslany literally played 8+ distinct characters almost simultaneously. She can make anything interesting and entertaining.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:09 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Still, I couldn't give two shits less about another female Marvel character shoe horned into the franchise to push a fricking narrative.
Cap Marvel started this bullshite, the "all girl" scene in endgame was god awful, and then black widow completely shite the bed.
We get it. Marvel wants to push the female equal rights narrative. Too bad the characters are lame.
Cap Marvel started this bullshite, the "all girl" scene in endgame was god awful, and then black widow completely shite the bed.
We get it. Marvel wants to push the female equal rights narrative. Too bad the characters are lame.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:09 am to Jack Ruby
No that's Dasani.
Nestle water is Ozarka in the central South, Zephyrhills in Florida and others depending where you live. All SPRING water NOT purified.
Nestle water is Ozarka in the central South, Zephyrhills in Florida and others depending where you live. All SPRING water NOT purified.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:51 pm to Napoleon
I enjoyed it, even though I didn't look at the runtime and it was longer than I expected(TWSS).
My takeaways:
Great action, and I like how they had some fight scenes being straight hand-to-hand(the bus, the building attack) but others being more fantasy along the lines of Crouching Tiger(the mom and dad meeting, him vs the aunt).
I especially liked the mom/dad fight, with the expressions on his face showing how he was instantly captivated by her and made the changes and choices to give up his lifestyle feel real. It also made the motivations at the end feel sincere, that a man with that much power is doing what he thinks will save his family in his own warped way.
I laughed at akwafina a good bit, and she reminded me of Michael Pena to Ant Man. At the end when the movie straight up references to her learning how to shoot as kinda absurd was pretty funny, as was Wong and Abomination throwing fights I thought the chemistry between the actors got better as the movie went on, and the comedic timing got better to land more jokes as opposed to early in the movie when it seemed a little clunky with the setups.
For as long as the movie was, I don't think it explained to the general audience what the actual power of the rings is, or what kind of magic the people in the Ta Lo used. For instance, the visuals of the rings changing color told the audience who was controlling them. But someone else could take control of the rings, why did they keep throwing them back? The movie didn't really explain the powers very well to the general audience, IMO.
I didn't really feel a sense of urgency against Dweller in Darkness. It was kinda like the space and land battles in The Phantom Menace. I only was interested in the fight with Darth Maul, and I was really only interested in the fight between Shang Chi and Wenwu. Did they ever refer to the Dweller as a demon? I can't remember. While the imagery was there, telling the audience directly it was a powerful demon instead of just a monster could have added some weight to his release and given the audience a better understanding of why he's feeding on souls. Just my opinion. It was a cool fight to watch on the big screen, though.
Lastly, I think the mid- and post-credit scenes should have been switched. I think they were probably going for the big "...will return" moment at the very end, but the mid-credits scene was the bigger impact and to me would have built more anticipation for future movies as I'm getting up and walking out of the theater.
Overall, I had fun and wouldn't rate it any lower than mid-tier Marvel. Let's see where it goes, and who the beacon is calling...
My takeaways:
Great action, and I like how they had some fight scenes being straight hand-to-hand(the bus, the building attack) but others being more fantasy along the lines of Crouching Tiger(the mom and dad meeting, him vs the aunt).
I especially liked the mom/dad fight, with the expressions on his face showing how he was instantly captivated by her and made the changes and choices to give up his lifestyle feel real. It also made the motivations at the end feel sincere, that a man with that much power is doing what he thinks will save his family in his own warped way.
I laughed at akwafina a good bit, and she reminded me of Michael Pena to Ant Man. At the end when the movie straight up references to her learning how to shoot as kinda absurd was pretty funny, as was Wong and Abomination throwing fights I thought the chemistry between the actors got better as the movie went on, and the comedic timing got better to land more jokes as opposed to early in the movie when it seemed a little clunky with the setups.
For as long as the movie was, I don't think it explained to the general audience what the actual power of the rings is, or what kind of magic the people in the Ta Lo used. For instance, the visuals of the rings changing color told the audience who was controlling them. But someone else could take control of the rings, why did they keep throwing them back? The movie didn't really explain the powers very well to the general audience, IMO.
I didn't really feel a sense of urgency against Dweller in Darkness. It was kinda like the space and land battles in The Phantom Menace. I only was interested in the fight with Darth Maul, and I was really only interested in the fight between Shang Chi and Wenwu. Did they ever refer to the Dweller as a demon? I can't remember. While the imagery was there, telling the audience directly it was a powerful demon instead of just a monster could have added some weight to his release and given the audience a better understanding of why he's feeding on souls. Just my opinion. It was a cool fight to watch on the big screen, though.
Lastly, I think the mid- and post-credit scenes should have been switched. I think they were probably going for the big "...will return" moment at the very end, but the mid-credits scene was the bigger impact and to me would have built more anticipation for future movies as I'm getting up and walking out of the theater.
Overall, I had fun and wouldn't rate it any lower than mid-tier Marvel. Let's see where it goes, and who the beacon is calling...
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:44 pm to stuckintexas
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But someone else could take control of the rings, why did they keep throwing them back?
I got the impression they kinda choose the bearer, almost like Doctor Strange's cape. That they switched between Mandarin and Shang-Chi demonstrated they were both 'worthy'.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:19 pm to VoxDawg
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they were both 'worthy'
Why would they have chosen Wenwu as "worthy?"
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:16 pm to stuckintexas
I saw it today and enjoyed it. I would agree and say that it is mid-tier in the MCU which isn’t a bad place to be with some very good top tier movies.
They did a good job of showing what a misguided man Wenwu was out of the gate and turned him into a sympathetic character towards the end. You can sense that he did love the mother and kids. All the way to the end, you get a sense that he does love Shang.
Awkwfina has a schtick and she does it well. She is pretty good with that old lady, nasally complaining. She was pretty funny in this one too.
I enjoyed the mystical aspects but there was a lot going on in the final battle. I would have rather seen Shang chi straight up fighting the final instead of the dragon.
They did a good job of showing what a misguided man Wenwu was out of the gate and turned him into a sympathetic character towards the end. You can sense that he did love the mother and kids. All the way to the end, you get a sense that he does love Shang.
Awkwfina has a schtick and she does it well. She is pretty good with that old lady, nasally complaining. She was pretty funny in this one too.
I enjoyed the mystical aspects but there was a lot going on in the final battle. I would have rather seen Shang chi straight up fighting the final instead of the dragon.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:15 am to stuckintexas
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Why would they have chosen Wenwu as "worthy?"
Maybe it's not a moral determination like Mjolnir. Like only certain people have the fortitude, irrespective of alignment to wield them.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:55 am to Bottom9
Haven't seen it yet, but watched Drinker's review.
Basically said that the movie tries to be too many different genre's of movie all at once (buddy road trip, spy thriller, kung fu movie, etc) and doesn't give the main character any chance to develop.
Has that been everyone else's experience that's seen it?
Basically said that the movie tries to be too many different genre's of movie all at once (buddy road trip, spy thriller, kung fu movie, etc) and doesn't give the main character any chance to develop.
Has that been everyone else's experience that's seen it?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:00 am to Warfarer
quote:It was, but I agree that even middle of the road MCU is still a solid time.
it is mid-tier in the MCU which isn’t a bad place to be
My fiancée, who's Asian-American, loved it. She has fun when I drag her to an MCU movie, but they're not that big of a deal to her. It was nice seeing her actually get hyped for one.
The bus fight was awesome and I was hoping for more of that. It definitely went more mystical as it went along. I would have liked more to the fight between Shang-Chi and Wenwu than the dragon vs soul eater.
My only other complaint was it was a bit overlong, and definitely could have been edited down a bit.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:04 am to skrayper
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Has that been everyone else's experience that's seen it?
Yes. Took my family to watch it last night. I really enjoyed the first hour, but then it becomes a completely different movie. The second half was just odd for me. By the time we got to the CGI porn, I was checked out
I'll also add that I agree with other posters that have mentioned that Shang-chi is just not an interesting character. He's actually quite boring. Tony Leung is the star of this film.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:19 am to VoxDawg
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I got the impression they kinda choose the bearer, almost like Stranger's cape. That they switched between Mandarin and Shang-Chi demonstrated they were both 'worthy'.
From their vague origins in the beginning and then their comments at the end, I’m guessing that Wenwu has some of that Eternal or Celestial DNA and that’s how he was able to wield them. And since Shang is his son, they responded to that.
Just a guess.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:04 am to skrayper
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Basically said that the movie tries to be too many different genre's of movie all at once (buddy road trip, spy thriller, kung fu movie, etc) and doesn't give the main character any chance to develop.
Has that been everyone else's experience that's seen it?
Not at all. I would've liked a little more exposition/backstory on WenWu and the Rings themselves, but as an intro flick goes, it pretty much checked all the boxes for me.
Everyone who says it's top half of the MCU movies are right, IMO.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:35 pm to VoxDawg
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At least we know it's gonna kill in China.
CCP has banned it so far.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:09 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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My fiancée, who's Asian-American
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