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re: Season Finale of Fringe Tonight...
Posted on 5/13/09 at 6:50 am to RX94
Posted on 5/13/09 at 6:50 am to RX94
Good episode last night, but they still need to advance the deeper plot somewhat. Last night's show was just like every other show...one specific storyline with a clear start and a clear finish. The only difference was that at the very end of the show, they threw in a couple of things to try to "boom" the audience.
I like the show a lot and the first season definitely kept me interested, but it seemed like the first five or so episodes were trying so hard to create this huge conspiracy angle, and then the rest of the shows just kinda went away from that and were just cut and dry shows. Massive Dynamic, the huge "bad guy" company, is now all of a sudden not bad anymore? They did nothing with the Observer. He wasn't even really in this episode. They keep hinting at aliens, but now all of a sudden (the last couple of shows), it may not be aliens, but rather alternate realities.
Who knows...like I said, I like the show, I just wish it would stay focused on the premises it started out with. But with JJ Abrams, I guess we're lucky we don't have a billion questions like with Lost.
I like the show a lot and the first season definitely kept me interested, but it seemed like the first five or so episodes were trying so hard to create this huge conspiracy angle, and then the rest of the shows just kinda went away from that and were just cut and dry shows. Massive Dynamic, the huge "bad guy" company, is now all of a sudden not bad anymore? They did nothing with the Observer. He wasn't even really in this episode. They keep hinting at aliens, but now all of a sudden (the last couple of shows), it may not be aliens, but rather alternate realities.
Who knows...like I said, I like the show, I just wish it would stay focused on the premises it started out with. But with JJ Abrams, I guess we're lucky we don't have a billion questions like with Lost.
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Posted on 5/13/09 at 7:46 am to CocomoLSU
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Who knows...like I said, I like the show, I just wish it would stay focused on the premises it started out with. But with JJ Abrams, I guess we're lucky we don't have a billion questions like with Lost.
Agree
Posted on 5/13/09 at 8:30 am to CocomoLSU
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The only difference was that at the very end of the show, they threw in a couple of things to try to "boom" the audience.
Yeah, I felt it was a little anti-climactic and they tried to get too much "boom" out of Nimoy's presence.
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Massive Dynamic, the huge "bad guy" company, is now all of a sudden not bad anymore?
That really depends on how all this alternate reality stuff works out. The manifesto suggested that the alternate realities would fight against each other. It looks like Bell's set up is in the "best" reality, so if his plan is to have the best reality win, then he would be the bad guy that Dunham would have to fight against.
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I just wish it would stay focused on the premises it started out with
I think it did. Just look at the pattern and how essential it was to the season finale. I took from the map images that the pattern "attacks" were deliberate and specifically located in an effort to create soft spots between the universes.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 8:40 am to TigerinATL
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I think it did. Just look at the pattern and how essential it was to the season finale. I took from the map images that the pattern "attacks" were deliberate and specifically located in an effort to create soft spots between the universes.
I do agree with that. I just wish it touched on the initial premise of the show more. I felt like most of the season was filler. Still good shows, just nothing that really tied much together.
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they tried to get too much "boom" out of Nimoy's presence.
100% agree with that. Why is him being Bell such a big deal...because he was on Star Trek? I actually thought it was kind of JJ Abrams pimping his new movie. The fact that Leonard Nimoy is Bell has no impact on the show, so why would they try to make it seem like such a WTF moment..?? Doesn't make any sense to me.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 8:47 am to RX94
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Bias leads Celtics to sweep
Len Bias would have been 46 years old this year.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 9:06 am to TigerinATL
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That really depends on how all this alternate reality stuff works out. The manifesto suggested that the alternate realities would fight against each other. It looks like Bell's set up is in the "best" reality, so if his plan is to have the best reality win, then he would be the bad guy that Dunham would have to fight against.
I kind of agree that is the path the show is taking. That being said, it looks like Nimoy will become a cast member for that to take place. I could see Bell turning into a "God" figure trying to manipulate the future. I also believe it will be revealed that Walter's motive the whole time was to create the portal to the alternate reality in order to reunite with his son.
Side note, I wonder how Peter is going to take it when he realizes that the Peter in this reality is actually dead. I really like the path this show is taking. The 1st season really did a good job of setting up the groundwork for the series IMO.
This post was edited on 5/13/09 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/13/09 at 10:18 am to STEVED00
Posted on 5/13/09 at 10:39 am to CocomoLSU
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I do agree with that. I just wish it touched on the initial premise of the show more. I felt like most of the season was filler. Still good shows, just nothing that really tied much together.
the filler episodes is almost what lost me on this show. I liked how it started but every week I was waiting to find out more about the overall story arc and it never came. If they keep with the arc next season and do less filler shows then I am sold.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 1:18 pm to nino2469
In the screencap did you notice that it said the Stock market had been closed for 21 days and counting. Hmmm maybe 9/11 didn't happen but another attack on the white house occurred recently.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 1:24 pm to wilfont
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Len Bias would have been 46 years old this year.
Irregardless of how realistic it is, a Len Bias reference is bad arse.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 2:28 pm to wilfont
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Len Bias would have been 46 years old this year
Obviously they were going for a sports star who died way before his prime. Bias has really good name recognition.
I like the idea, but a reference to Barbaro winning the triple crown would have been a better reference IMO.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 2:34 pm to STEVED00
They should have had something that we really know would never happen like, "Ole Miss wins BCS title."
This post was edited on 5/13/09 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/13/09 at 2:36 pm to extremetigerfanatic
Don't even raise that as a possibility in any reality. 
Posted on 5/13/09 at 2:50 pm to STEVED00
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I like the idea, but a reference to Barbaro winning the triple crown would have been a better reference IMO.
Not even close to as good a reference. Bias not dieing of an overdose conceivably alters the course of NBA and sports history dramatically:
[link=(espn.go.com/page2/s/simmons/010620.html)]Simmons on Len Bias[/link]
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:06 pm to nino2469
i almost quit watching this show about 6 episodes back, but like terminator and dollhouse i thought it really picked up the last few episodes of the season. i think they need to avoid the "stand alone" episodes and stick more to the overarching plot in season 2. the whole idea of battling alternate realities is a really interesting premise and this first season did a great job of laying the foundation. also, really liked the angle they took with peter at the end as it makes a lot sense with what we've already known about him.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:10 pm to TotallyTigers
So what exactly happened to Peter as a child? Who is this Peter?
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:15 pm to glaucon
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Bias not dieing of an overdose conceivably alters the course of NBA and sports history dramatically
And Barbaro being the 1st horse in 30 YEARS to win the triple crown doesn't alter Horse racing history.... Just saying.
But back on your original point..
Maybe Bias not OD'ng conceivably alters the course of NBA and sports history dramatically(even though I think that is a bit of a stretch I will go with it), but him winning the Championship Series MVP at 46 is plain ridiculous. That WOULD NOT happen in any reality. Hell Jordan was a shell of himself at 40, so no way he would dominate a final at 46 and that is assuming that Len Bias would have turned out to be the best player in NBA history.
I really liked the attempt, but assuming it is 2009 in both places, it doesn't seem conceivable (I find it funny that I'm arguing that Bias winning the MVP at 46 is not conceivable in a thread were "alternate realities" are the main theme
)This post was edited on 5/13/09 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:23 pm to LSUlefty
peter was sick as a kid (not sure if they've said how/why he was sick) and died. walter couldnt accept it and created the device to "open the window" to the alternate reality/universe so that he could basically kidnap the kid peter from that universe. so the adult peter on the show now is peter from the alternate reality, but doesnt know it.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:27 pm to TotallyTigers
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the angle they took with peter at the end as it makes a lot sense with what we've already known about him.
Great Point. You kind of get the feeling that he never really "fit in" anywhere and now the reason is that he shouldn't be here in the 1st place.
Posted on 5/13/09 at 3:50 pm to STEVED00
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And Barbaro being the 1st horse in 30 YEARS doesn't alter Horse racing history.... Just saying.
But back on your original point..
Maybe Bias not OD'ng conceivably alters the course of NBA and sports history dramatically(even though I think that is a bit of a stretch), but him winning the Championship Series MVP at 46 is plain ridiculous. That WOULD NOT happen in any reality. Hell Jordan was a shell of himself at 40, so no way he would dominate a final at 46 and that is assuming that Len Bias would have turned out to be the best player in NBA history.
One, a Triple Crown winner is not as significant as Michael Jordan theoretically having a rival throughout his playing career. Two, you are right about the age thing. Should have gone with a Hall of Fame announcement or something along those lines. That said, the Towers, Obama New White House, and Kennedy reference made me roll my eyes a bit but the Len Bias reference was just money.
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