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re: Rewatched Batman Begins last night

Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Polar Bear
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:14 pm to
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Batman Begins is a vastly superior movie.


I'm not so sure about "vastly", but I do agree that it is a better film.
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:19 pm to
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There is no planet in this universe where Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight.
yes there is, planet flair chops.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:30 pm to
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Ra's Al Ghul wasn't nearly as good a villain as Joker. No, I'm not one of the sheep who joined in on the Ledger suckfest.


How do you differentiate between the people that legitimately liked Ledger's performance, and the sheep that joined the suckfest after the fact? I'd like to be in the first group.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20761 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:35 pm to
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Maggie is dreadful to look at and I could have cared less if she got blown up.


This. If she was not a celebrity and you saw her in a bar, you'd think she was average. Again, the changing of the actresses (I know it was Holmes' fault) ruined the Rachel death scene for me as well.

I just hope TDKR returns the focus to Bruce somehow.
This post was edited on 7/18/12 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15546 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:36 pm to
exactly this; her death wasn't as emotionally powerful to me because it seemed like a different character. (not the rachel we knew)
This post was edited on 7/18/12 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:38 pm to
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exactly this; her death wasn't as emotionally powerful to me because it seemed like a different character. (not the rachel we knew)


same
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20761 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:40 pm to
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exactly this; her death wasn't as emotionally powerful to me because it seemed like a different character. (not the rachel we knew)


Right out of the gate they had Rachel flirting with Harvey and asking if he wanted to take the rest of the day off. That was nothing like her character in Begins.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 6:12 pm to
Maggie is a good actress but absolutely hideous to look at.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16742 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 12:57 pm to
Watched last night.

Loled at the little kid Katie Holmes tries to save after te police pulled uP the bridge.
Geoffrey baratheon. Little a-hole he was looking for his mom too.
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:04 pm to
Holmes and BB were just empty to me


Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:12 pm to
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they had Rachel flirting with Harvey and asking if he wanted to take the rest of the day off.


Maybe a couple of years working as a civil servant had given her a touch of cynicism, and after her boyfriend winning a big case, she was open to the idea of a celebratory afternoon with some of "the shoosh"...you know "the bad."
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:25 pm to
Watched BB yesterday as well, and I absolutely can't stand the way Katie Holmes basically talks out of one side of her mouth.

Also, never really noticed it before, but it was bugging the shite out of me near the end when Batman was dangling underneath the train as it sped along the track. There is ZERo chance that could've happened. And I don't mean like it was movie magic shite...they literally kept showing the track, and the bottom of the train was passing over numerous obstacles (like the supports, other tracks, etc.). It wasn't just open to below...the line Batman was hanging on would've been snapped/cut within seconds. That was really bothering me.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:36 pm to
BB is clearly superior IMO.

BB is the BEST telling of a superhero origin ever. TDK was great, but Ledger very overrated.

BB has a more authentic rawness, it feels darker and more real to me.

Gyllenhall is a better actress but really so hard to look at that it takes you out of the movie. Woefully miscast (I have liked her in other things fwiw, like that Will Ferrell movie). Holmes is beautiful, and her acting is not so bad that it detracts from the movie.
Posted by nevilletiger79
Monroe
Member since Jan 2009
17570 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:39 pm to
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Ra's Al Ghul wasn't nearly as good a villain as Joker.


they are two completly different types of villians...thats like comparing lex luthor to darkseid
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:40 pm to
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they are two completly different types of villians...thats like comparing lex luthor to darkseid


I still don't like Ra's as much as the Joker.
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:41 pm to
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Also, never really noticed it before, but it was bugging the shite out of me near the end when Batman was dangling underneath the train as it sped along the track. There is ZERo chance that could've happened. And I don't mean like it was movie magic shite...they literally kept showing the track, and the bottom of the train was passing over numerous obstacles (like the supports, other tracks, etc.). It wasn't just open to below...the line Batman was hanging on would've been snapped/cut within seconds. That was really bothering me.


I noticed that too.

quote:

BB is clearly superior IMO.

BB is the BEST telling of a superhero origin ever. TDK was great, but Ledger very overrated.

BB has a more authentic rawness, it feels darker and more real to me.


Completely agree.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98662 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:48 pm to
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Gyllenhall is a better actress but really so hard to look at that it takes you out of the movie.


Best bit of acting in the entirety of TDK is when Ledger/Joker says "And you ARE beautiful."
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:00 pm to
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There is no planet in this universe where Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight.


yes there is, planet flair chops.


I think Begins is better as well, I'm not a comic book reader and liked the origins story. I also think the villians were perfect. The first one was more about Batman and him fighting the mob and corruption.
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:04 pm to
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H-Town Tiger


Wow, we agree on something.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65029 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:06 pm to
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I still don't like Ra's as much as the Joker.



I don't either, but Ra's al Ghul worked well in the context of the film. Plus, the villains weren't nearly as important in Batman Begins as they were in The Dark Knight.

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