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Realistically how was it even possible for Waingro to escape Neil in Heat?

Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
5179 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:17 am
Watched this masterpiece last night and that scene outside the diner alway didn’t sit right with me. 3 guys covering the corners in the parking lot and Neil right on top of you with a gun just seems impossible for someone to escape that scenario without being notice by somebody.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70776 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:26 am to
He crawled under the cars then a cop pulled up. Btw Saw Waingro on Banshee the other day.
Posted by ColonelAngus
Huntsville,AL
Member since Aug 2023
869 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:58 am to
Hardened criminal/seriel killer. Rats survive!
Posted by Cenlabration
The Ville of Pine
Member since Apr 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:22 pm to
Fun fact: The Waingro actor Kevin Gage was married to Kelly Preston in the 80's.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:57 pm to
He had to get it on man
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157377 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

how was it even possible for Waingro to escape Neil in Heat?
when a guy in heat is after you, you run faster
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65468 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:21 am to
Movie was ruined at the end. Neil was far too disciplined to not escape when he had the chance just to go get revenge on Waingro. He could have disappeared for a bit and still have all the time in the world to come back for Waingro at some point.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:42 am to
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Rats survive!



Until they don't

Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
5179 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Movie was ruined at the end. Neil was far too disciplined to not escape when he had the chance just to go get revenge on Waingro.
nah it was a great twist in the plot because it showed that Chris while being madly in loved and a train wreck personal life was the most disciplined of all.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
8476 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 1:55 pm to
Yep, 85-87

Did 3 years in real life for growing weed 03 to 06.


Neal's girlfriend was so shook up afterwards she became a Judge
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4737 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Movie was ruined at the end.

Agreed. The action did not fit the character. He could have paid somebody to kill Waingro after he left the country. Anyway, Ammy Brenneman ended up with a sweet ride!
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37538 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Movie was ruined at the end. Neil was far too disciplined to not escape when he had the chance just to go get revenge on Waingro. He could have disappeared for a bit and still have all the time in the world to come back for Waingro at some point.


Pretty much

It would have gone from a great movie to an all time movie. Especially since Pacino's train wreck personal life demonstrated he didn't have the consistency of discipline necessary to compete at the highest level.

I felt like they broke the character just to force a good guy wins outcome.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:48 pm to
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Movie was ruined at the end. Neil was far too disciplined to not escape when he had the chance just to go get revenge on Waingro


Neil spends the entire movie breaking his own code. He built his persona and protected his own ego by claiming to follow these rules but at the end of the day he’s human and all his human greed, ego, and love make him completely forgoe his code


If he was as disciplined as he or you claim, he would’ve stopped when he saw detective Hannah was onto him. He also would’ve never had such a vulnerability like Chris on his squad and he never would’ve taken out that lady who’s asking him about his book about metals. At the end of the day he’s just as human and unprincipled as the heavies he employed.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
867 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:48 pm to
Not gonna lie. I was pulling for Neil to win the shootout at the end.

Also, I agree that the ending was the weakest part of the movie. It was out of character for Neil to chance trying to kill Waingro. This is the guy who always preached walking away when the heat was on.

I have Heat 2 on my Kindle, I just haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:01 pm to
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Also, I agree that the ending was the weakest part of the movie. It was out of character for Neil to chance trying to kill Waingro. This is the guy who always preached walking away when the heat was on.


I feel like yall didn’t watch the movie
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39279 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:03 am to
I’m surprised Gage didn’t do more, he seemed like a good actor.

quote:

Neal's girlfriend was so shook up afterwards she became a Judge

Who and what?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15138 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Movie was ruined at the end. Neil was far too disciplined to not escape when he had the chance just to go get revenge on Waingro. He could have disappeared for a bit and still have all the time in the world to come back for Waingro at some point.


Disagree it ruined the movie, but yeah, I really wanted Neil to escape
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