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re: Ranking seasons of The Wire (FULL SPOILERS st. Pg 4)- Final bump
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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I consider the Wire a 3-season series with 2 sequel seasons (which decreased in quality as they went on).
So just a 5 season show
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All of them being great TV. S5 being the worst is about the only thing I know for sure, the rest of the list could fluctuate.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:18 am to iwyLSUiwy
It's interesting that the first half of the thread S4 was considered one of the worst along with 5, but in the later part of the thread 4 is up at the top as being one of the best.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:21 pm to WG_Dawg
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All but 5 are fantastic and I wouldn’t argue with anyone who put any of 1-4 at the top
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All but 5 are fantastic and I wouldn’t argue with anyone who put any of 1-4 at the top
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:23 pm to WG_Dawg
No spoilers on a season ranking doesn’t really make any sense
ETA watch the show THEN worry about rankings
ETA watch the show THEN worry about rankings
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:29 pm to Dire Wolf
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I may be the only one who thinks the Hamsterdam storyline was very meh.
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I may be the only one who thinks the Hamsterdam storyline was very meh.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:41 pm to wildtigercat93
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No spoilers on a season ranking doesn’t really make any sense
what part of it is giving you trouble?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:14 pm to rmc
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Real ones know season 2 is the goat.
LOL
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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3 is overrated & Avon was right.
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3 is overrated & Avon was right.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:29 pm to WG_Dawg
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Again wtihout getting spoilery, what makes 5 so universally the worst?
Season 5 can be viewed as "David Simon's axe grinding against his former Baltimore Sun colleagues."
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:31 pm to WG_Dawg
I've noodled on this issue for some time. I was quite late to The Wire (I think I watched it in 2009 - 2010 for the first time) and I completely understood why Season 2 got the hate. It was just so jarring. As soon as you rewatch it, Season 2 clicks and grabs you.
Having said that, I'm having trouble with it being above Season 1. At this point, I have Season 1 and 2 as 1a and 1b and, frankly, 3 could just as easily be 1c. Especially in context of what is produced today, it is shocking that a show mostly packed with unknown character actors could be so well done. I think the writing deteriorated and Seasons 4 and 5 suffered, probably needlessly, because of it.
Having said that, I'm having trouble with it being above Season 1. At this point, I have Season 1 and 2 as 1a and 1b and, frankly, 3 could just as easily be 1c. Especially in context of what is produced today, it is shocking that a show mostly packed with unknown character actors could be so well done. I think the writing deteriorated and Seasons 4 and 5 suffered, probably needlessly, because of it.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Me, rnc, uncle stu, h-town tiger...That may be the roster.
Oh no, I was one of the original season 2 fan boy. I just got tired of arguing for it. And Yeah, I'll champion him again but Ziggy is great and the most misunderstood characters of the series.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:49 pm to Cdawg
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Oh no, I was one of the original season 2 fan boy.
to you and sfp and others, what is it about 2 that would have you elevate it above 1? Granted I know that the thread has been spoiler-free thus far so it might be hard to stay within those confines but maybe try your best, or if you do put spilers at least give plenty of advanced wwarning ha.
I enjoy 2 a lot but itd' be hard for me to put it above 1. Also I hate ziggy and I dont' think I'd call him "misunderstood" at all. All of us have known a ziggy at some poitn in our life and no matter their motivations or underlying interanl traumas, your actions define who you are. Ziggy is constantly posturing like he's bigger and badder and cooler and smarter and harder than he actually is. He's a fake. He's pretend. He sucks.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:55 pm to Byron Bojangles III
that didn't really hit me since that was from S1 so I'd already seen it, but now that you mention it yeah that's pretty fricked up lol
Cmon slo
Cmon slo
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:58 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I'm on S4 of yet another rewatch.
I still go back and forth on who is my favorite character.
Slim
or
Bodie

I still go back and forth on who is my favorite character.
Slim
or
Bodie
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:03 pm to WG_Dawg
Dang, I didn't even think to tell him to edit that. Definitely spoilers.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:05 pm to Cdawg
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And Yeah, I'll champion him again but Ziggy is great and the most misunderstood characters of the series.
Stop. Ziggy was a crap character. He wasn't one of the most misunderstood, he was one of the worst characters of the entire series. That would be a dumb hill to die on.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:26 pm to WG_Dawg
How about watch all the seasons and figure out how it all circles back to the importance of season 2.
Of all the despicable and low life characters on the show, why does Ziggy piss you off the most? Because he isn't as cool as the others? He's the one character on the show that doesn't carry himself well.
Is it when everyone can see how pathetic you are and is that why it bothers you the most? Why do you think he did the things he did and are you sure? Whose affirmation is he seeking and are you sure? It's easy to say he's a little turd and I hope he gets his. But in the end did he really get his? He gets prison. Is that better than being killed? Are you sure?
Of all the despicable and low life characters on the show, why does Ziggy piss you off the most? Because he isn't as cool as the others? He's the one character on the show that doesn't carry himself well.
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He's a fake. He's pretend.
Is it when everyone can see how pathetic you are and is that why it bothers you the most? Why do you think he did the things he did and are you sure? Whose affirmation is he seeking and are you sure? It's easy to say he's a little turd and I hope he gets his. But in the end did he really get his? He gets prison. Is that better than being killed? Are you sure?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:27 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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he was one of the worst characters of the entire series. That would be a dumb hill to die on.
See here we go. It gets exhausting.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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to you and sfp and others, what is it about 2 that would have you elevate it above 1?
Frank Sobotka is, easily, the best character on the Wire. His arc was literally Shakespearean. Most of everything in that season flowed through his arc.
As far as the Barksdale crew, 2 sets up their own stuff for season 3. It's the backbone of all of that conflict.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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that was from S1 so I'd already seen it, but now that you mention it yeah that's pretty fricked up lol
I only gave spoilers up to where you had said you've watched in OP. If someone else comes into this thread expecting no spoilers, for a show with a final season that turns 15 this year? When we're ranking/debating the seasons?

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