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Question for GOT book readers (spoiler)....
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:03 pm
It's been a while sense I have read the final book, so I might be forgetting some vital information.
Do you think John Snow is actually dead? I read someone where that Snow will come back as the hero that was foretold to return to Westeros.
Do you think John Snow is actually dead? I read someone where that Snow will come back as the hero that was foretold to return to Westeros.
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Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:05 pm to toughcrittercrumb
quote:I fully expect Melisandre to resurrect him.
Do you think John Snow is actually dead? I read someone where that Snow will come back as the hero that was foretold to return to Westeros.
Where it goes from there, I have no idea.
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:09 pm to toughcrittercrumb
No
Who knows what happens to him but theres like an 800 page thread for this.
Who knows what happens to him but theres like an 800 page thread for this.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:11 pm to toughcrittercrumb
I think his body may be dead and he'll warg into Ghost. Whether he can warg from Ghost into someone else or Melisandre can resurrect him is a whole other deal.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:12 pm to toughcrittercrumb
No. Jon Snow may be temporarily dead, but his arc indicates that he's not dead. If he is dead for good, then its bad writing and his arc has been a waste of time. It's called "A Song of Ice and Fire" for a reason.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:12 pm to toughcrittercrumb
I'm almost 100% positive no character has died in their own chapter (aside from the intro chapters). The wall is a magical place, and he is supposedly the one born from fire and ice. So, my money is that he is still alive.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:17 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Jon Snow is obviously Azor Ahai reborn. To be reborn he has to first die then reborn amongst salt and smoke. He ain't dead
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:22 pm to ZacAttack
Anything on the theory that "The Song of Ice and Fire" refers to Jon Snow and Daenerys getting together or something in the end?
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:24 pm to Goombaw
Go ask in the GOT super theory thread. They could probably hook you up with all kinds of info.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:24 pm to ZacAttack
quote:Well Cat died in the RW but yeah most are cliffhangers where they're alive.
I'm almost 100% positive no character has died in their own chapter (aside from the intro chapters). The wall is a magical place, and he is supposedly the one born from fire and ice. So, my money is that he is still alive.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:26 pm to Goombaw
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Anything on the theory that "The Song of Ice and Fire" refers to Jon Snow and Daenerys getting together or something in the end?
That may very well happen, but I think the title has more to do with Rhaegar and Lyanna.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:35 pm to tween the hedges
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Well Cat died in the RW but yeah most are cliffhangers where they're alive.
Not to mention Quentyn, who certainly died.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:38 pm to CottonWasKing
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Question for GOT book readers (spoiler)....
Jon Snow is obviously Azor Ahai reborn. To be reborn he has to first die then reborn amongst salt and smoke. He ain't dead
Yeah. That's very true. I hadn't thought it that way but it makes sense. I also read somewhere that the only way to leave the commitment to the wall is by death. By Jon dying, he is released from hi commitment to the Wall.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:40 pm to toughcrittercrumb
quote:Truth. I hope Jon goes medieval on his murderers.
Yeah. That's very true. I hadn't thought it that way but it makes sense. I also read somewhere that the only way to leave the commitment to the wall is by death. By Jon dying, he is released from hi commitment to the Wall.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:46 pm to toughcrittercrumb
This is somewhat off the subject, but I was checking GRRM's blog the other day and he posts something pretty much every day, plus he was talking about opening a bar???
GET OFF THE INTERNET, OUT OF THE BAR BUSINESS, AND FINISH THE WINDS OF WINTER AND A DREAM OF SPRING, GEORGE! YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD!
GET OFF THE INTERNET, OUT OF THE BAR BUSINESS, AND FINISH THE WINDS OF WINTER AND A DREAM OF SPRING, GEORGE! YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD!
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:15 pm to Goombaw
Question for GOT book readers (spoiler)....
This is somewhat off the subject, but I was checking GRRM's blog the other day and he posts something pretty much every day, plus he was talking about opening a bar???
GET OFF THE INTERNET, OUT OF THE BAR BUSINESS, AND FINISH THE WINDS OF WINTER AND A DREAM OF SPRING, GEORGE! YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD!
Exactly. Lol. The producers of the tv who went to him to find out how the story will end. They already know George isn't going to have books finished before the tv series surpasses book 6.
This is somewhat off the subject, but I was checking GRRM's blog the other day and he posts something pretty much every day, plus he was talking about opening a bar???
GET OFF THE INTERNET, OUT OF THE BAR BUSINESS, AND FINISH THE WINDS OF WINTER AND A DREAM OF SPRING, GEORGE! YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD!
Exactly. Lol. The producers of the tv who went to him to find out how the story will end. They already know George isn't going to have books finished before the tv series surpasses book 6.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:16 pm to Goombaw
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Anything on the theory that "The Song of Ice and Fire" refers to Jon Snow and Daenerys getting together or something in the end?
I think it more likely refers to Jon Snow being the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna and him being the prince that was promised/azor ahai than Jon and Danny getting together
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:21 pm to toughcrittercrumb
If Jon is dead-dead, then I think either Mel or Val will resurrect him. If not, I think he's in a coma and is severely injured, but will heal from it. There's no way that he's dead; as OMLandshark said, it would be bad writing if he went out like that before all the shite hits the fan. Jon is the main character basically--go check out the 654 page thread on here. 
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:25 pm to ladytiger118
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I think he's in a coma and is severely injured, but will heal from it
I'm leaning more towards this than Jon getting the Dondarrion/Stoneheart treatment. I'm hoping for it at least.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:38 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Actually dead? not sure. He could just be knocked out like Arya was at The Twins in ASOS or Tyrion at the Bridge of Souls in ADWD. He also could be in a situation where his body is dead, but his soul is warged inside Ghost much like Varemir 6 Skins with his eagle in ASOS. However, one thing is 100% clear to me, he is not dead and gone forever. As I see it, there are several possibilities:
A. He's not dead.
He was just knocked unconscious and will wake up in a cell (possibly an ice cell) injured and in chains awaiting trial by a coup of brothers of the nights watch.
B. Oh he's dead, but he's coming back to be the hero.
His soul is inside of Ghost and will remain in there until he's revived by Melisendre or some weird Children of the Forest/Old Gods magic to save the day.
C. Oh, he's dead, but he's about to wreck shite.
He's dead temporarily, but he will be revived by the others and become the Great Other, leading the White Walkers against the armies of man, killing everyone in his path, like a boss.
D. The Dog Days of Winter.
He's dead and inside ghost, but his body's not coming back so he joins up with Nymeria's wolf pack and starts chomping down on some Freys, Boltons, and Lannisters. Eventually, he meets up with Arya and crazy awesome stuff happens when this f'd up tween assassin with some major grudges against the regime backed by an army of hundreds (possibly thousands) of hungry wolves and 2 giant direwolves could get pretty interesting.
I'd give 60% chance of B, 25% chance of A, 10% chance of C, 5% chance of D.
A. He's not dead.
He was just knocked unconscious and will wake up in a cell (possibly an ice cell) injured and in chains awaiting trial by a coup of brothers of the nights watch.
B. Oh he's dead, but he's coming back to be the hero.
His soul is inside of Ghost and will remain in there until he's revived by Melisendre or some weird Children of the Forest/Old Gods magic to save the day.
C. Oh, he's dead, but he's about to wreck shite.
He's dead temporarily, but he will be revived by the others and become the Great Other, leading the White Walkers against the armies of man, killing everyone in his path, like a boss.
D. The Dog Days of Winter.
He's dead and inside ghost, but his body's not coming back so he joins up with Nymeria's wolf pack and starts chomping down on some Freys, Boltons, and Lannisters. Eventually, he meets up with Arya and crazy awesome stuff happens when this f'd up tween assassin with some major grudges against the regime backed by an army of hundreds (possibly thousands) of hungry wolves and 2 giant direwolves could get pretty interesting.
I'd give 60% chance of B, 25% chance of A, 10% chance of C, 5% chance of D.
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