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re: Question about the opening scene in Inglorious Basterds..
Posted on 8/13/25 at 4:10 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 8/13/25 at 4:10 pm to Fun Bunch
I interpreted it as a test to see if she was Jewish. QT did a interview where he says everything the character does is some version of an interrogation.
Did he even see her face when she escaped?
Did he even see her face when she escaped?
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:26 am to Tic44
Just watched this movie after seeing this thread. Wow. Some parts were really intense. Thanks !
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:31 am to Tic44
quote:I think he let them live. If you remember, he had a clear shot at the girl running away and didnt take it.
Watched last night again and I would like your opinions on if you think Landa killed LaPadite and his girls after he lied to him about harboring Jews.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:33 am to AuburnTigers
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I think he let them live.
That's how I always viewed it as well. Not even sure why. I guess because Landa seems to consider himself a pretty fair and rational dude, and a good company man with morals (albeit Nazi slanted ones). So he hunts Jews, but not really anybody else.
And his conversation with LePadite when he figures out the Jews are in hiding...he could've easily just killed everyone in the house and been on his way. But he gives him a chance to confess and offers amnesty, which was accepted. So I guess in my mind, he wouldn't have done that if he was just going to turn around and kill him anyway.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:26 am to nosaj
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I always wondered if he recognized her i
i didn't think he did since he only saw her from behind as she was running away
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:09 am to Deek
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i didn't think he did since he only saw her from behind as she was running away
He had photos of her. Before Landa even walked in the house, he knew exactly who Shoshana was and lots of little details about everyone.
I think Tarantino has confirmed this, but apparently Landa doesn’t actually smoke tobacco or a pipe. The actual reason for the absurdly large pipe is another threat in and of itself because Landa is showing LaPatite that he knows even the smallest things about him, and that he better fess up now or he’s in for a real world of shite.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:37 am to OMLandshark
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He had photos of her.
In the early 1940s they had photos an occupying investigator had?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:39 am to H-Town Tiger
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In the early 1940s they had photos an occupying investigator had?
School photographs is all he needed.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:10 am to OMLandshark
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School photographs is all he needed.
And those were common in 1930s rural France?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:26 am to H-Town Tiger
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And those were common in 1930s rural France?
I mean, photography was relatively sophisticated at that time, so it seems fairly likely they would have gotten some photographs done. 1910s, probably not, but the Wizard of Oz has already come out by this point.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 9:57 am to OMLandshark
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He had photos of her.
I guess that I missed that, or was it implied? Regardless, gives me an excuse to watch it again.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:00 am to Harry Caray
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I thought him ordering milk and telling her to wait for the cream was an indicator that he recognized her from the dairy farm
That's what Mrs. Iwy thought when I showed it to her for the first time. I thought it was milk and cream just for suspense purposes.
Also, he never got a look at her at the beginning of the movie, he never saw her face. How was he going to recognize her right off the bat years later after only seeing the back of her head. Much less almost immediately making the connection.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:01 am to Deek
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I guess that I missed that, or was it implied? Regardless, gives me an excuse to watch it again.
I’m guessing he first went by whatever school Shoshana and her siblings went.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:07 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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He gets incensed at Aldo for killing his phone operator after making a deal for both of their lives. I'd lean toward them letting the LaPadite's survive.
This. Landa is an evil son of a bitch BUT he also views almost everything as a job. It’s just business to him outside of when he killed Van Hammersmark. That was the only one that seemed personal and out of character.
But on the other hand, he had no reason to keep her alive. The Lapadites on the other hand, make no sense to be killing. Keeping them alive could lead to the capture of other Jews seeking shelter or Shosanna could attempt to come back after they’ve left. Plus, judging by Landa being so upset that the Americans broke part of their agreement, makes it seem like Landa takes deals and promises seriously as any legitimate businessman would. It also just makes his character more interesting if he has some kind of fricked up moral code that he follows versus just being an evil dickhead
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:19 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Also, he never got a look at her at the beginning of the movie, he never saw her face. How was he going to recognize her right off the bat years later after only seeing the back of her head. Much less almost immediately making the connection.
Shoshana grew up in the 1930s where cameras were readily available and local authorities would want to keep track of people to some extent, whether that be through school or identification in general.
Plus they likely got a family photo like almost all families in Western Europe did in those days, and the photographer could have kept the negatives which the Nazis then used to hunt other Jews down. Hell, Shoshana’s father or mother may have kept a precious picture of Shoshana with them.
I think there are several avenues where Landa could have gotten a picture of Shoshana and her family. Sure there wasn’t a Facebook at the time, but plenty of reasons and events that Shoshana’s picture could have been taken.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:29 am to OMLandshark
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I mean, photography was relatively sophisticated at that time, so it seems fairly likely they would have gotten some photographs done.
But how wide spread was it? Cell phones existed in the 80s and 90s and but not every one had one. And we’re school photos a thing? If the family were dairy farmers like LaPadite’s did they definitely go to school? It’s not impossible he had a photo of her of course but seems unlikely especially a school photo my guess that’s more a post war thing
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:29 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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He gets incensed at Aldo for killing his phone operator after making a deal for both of their lives.
“Nah, I’ll just get ma arse chewed. That’s all right, I’ve had ma arse chewed before.”
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:37 am to H-Town Tiger
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But how wide spread was it?
It’s Western Europe. I’d get it if it was Eastern Europe, but cameras were very widespread in the Americas and Western Europe in the 1930s. My ancestors were hillbillies who certainly lived a rougher life than Shoshana (pre-Nazi invasion of course), and there’s a large family portrait from the 1890s that I’m aware of. Same with on my wife’s side who were German farmers that moved to Kansas.
Shoshana grew up 40 years after that, so I’m sure there are photos of her somewhere unless her parents did a very good job of destroying them and having friends and acquaintances destroy any photos they may have of them as well.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 10:42 am to OMLandshark
This thread has made me be ok with the thought that Landa recognized her. I can see that point of view. But there are certain things that still have me say he didn't because most of the reasons people say he recognized her are a stretch.
This is just a big stretch. Hideout Jews most likely had family photos laying around?
Just too many assumptions have to be made to justify it for my liking/preference. Also it assigns Landa as almost super hero powers looking at it that way. I prefer it based in more reality where the guy isn't an all knowing being but rather a guy that is good at his job but also not perfect.
Another interesting tidbit from that scene that adds even another layer is Landa putting his cigarette out in the creme. He goes to the point to almost assign it honor when talking about the importance of it and how good it is to Shoshana only to then only take a bite or two of it and then use it as an ash tray. Could be nothing, but it makes you wonder did he even care/enjoy it like he was putting on.
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Plus they likely got a family photo like almost all families in Western Europe did in those days, and the photographer could have kept the negatives which the Nazis then used to hunt other Jews down. Hell, Shoshana’s father or mother may have kept a precious picture of Shoshana with them.
This is just a big stretch. Hideout Jews most likely had family photos laying around?
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I think there are several avenues where Landa could have gotten a picture of Shoshana and her family. Sure there wasn’t a Facebook at the time, but plenty of reasons and events that Shoshana’s picture could have been taken.
Just too many assumptions have to be made to justify it for my liking/preference. Also it assigns Landa as almost super hero powers looking at it that way. I prefer it based in more reality where the guy isn't an all knowing being but rather a guy that is good at his job but also not perfect.
Another interesting tidbit from that scene that adds even another layer is Landa putting his cigarette out in the creme. He goes to the point to almost assign it honor when talking about the importance of it and how good it is to Shoshana only to then only take a bite or two of it and then use it as an ash tray. Could be nothing, but it makes you wonder did he even care/enjoy it like he was putting on.
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