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re: Question about Rey in Star Wars... *spoilers*
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:14 pm to Methuselah
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:14 pm to Methuselah
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I don' remember the specifics from the movie - did they say he personally killed all the other recruits? Maybe he just left the door unlocked for Snoke or something like that. (ok, maybe not that simple, but some sort of betrayal that didn't take ultra force use.)
It didn't say, but in her vision it showed Kylo with a bunch of other Knights of Ren behind him. So I'm thinking that Kylo wasn't the only Jedi trainee that turned to the dark side at the academy and became of Knight of Ren. He was probably just the one that persuaded them to turn, and then they all killed the other Jedi trainees.
Here is the picture from her vision:
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:21 pm to Methuselah
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did they say he personally killed all the other recruits?
It was implied in the film, but explicitly stated in the novelization and visual dictionary.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:34 pm to Cs
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It was implied in the film, but explicitly stated in the novelization and visual dictionary.
Was it stated in the novelization or visual dictionary that he did it by himself, or did the other Knights of Ren help him?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:50 pm to Bamatab
The only leak I saw of that part was the description of Kylo. It did not say if he did it by himself or not.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:54 pm to Mystery
There is also the theory that Kylo saved Rey. Killing one of his own Knights of Ren when they were trying to kill Rey. As you see him stab somebody in the back in the flashback. Somebody who was looking at the screen. Was it Rey's POV?
He then hid Rey on Jakku.
This would explain why Luke was so absent since then. As he would think Rey was killed along with the other padawans and would be distraught. Grieving over his daughter being killed.
In the Novelization it is made clear that Kylo knows who Rey is. He doesn't realize it fully until the final fight.
He then hid Rey on Jakku.
This would explain why Luke was so absent since then. As he would think Rey was killed along with the other padawans and would be distraught. Grieving over his daughter being killed.
In the Novelization it is made clear that Kylo knows who Rey is. He doesn't realize it fully until the final fight.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:57 pm to Mystery
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There is also the theory that Kylo saved Rey. Killing one of his own Knights of Ren when they were trying to kill Rey. As you see him stab somebody in the back in the flashback. Somebody who was looking at the screen. Was it Rey's POV?
He then hid Rey on Jakku.
My only question with that would be their ages. Ren and Rey appear to be close to the same age in the film.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
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My only question with that would be their ages. Ren and Rey appear to be close to the same age in the film.
They are not.
Rey is confirmed to be 19.
Kylo is anywhere from 29-30ish. Not confirmed yet but Driver hinted at it.
Rey would have been around 4-7ish from the age of the child in the flashback.
So it could have happened.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:11 pm to Mystery
One small thing I wish they had done with Rey would have been to indicate that she did better bargaining with the scrap dealer on the desert planet she was on than others. It could have been a subtle sign and foreshadowing of her force "suggestion" powers. But she did not seem to be very good at it.
Oh, and not related to the characters we've been discussing in this thread, but, though I was elated to see the order for Red Squadron to engage, I so wish they had done a "Red One standing by ..." check in scene. I thought for a second that is what they were about to do and I was about to squeal with delight in the middle of the movie theatre for a second.
Oh, and not related to the characters we've been discussing in this thread, but, though I was elated to see the order for Red Squadron to engage, I so wish they had done a "Red One standing by ..." check in scene. I thought for a second that is what they were about to do and I was about to squeal with delight in the middle of the movie theatre for a second.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:16 pm to Ralph Nader
Reys mideclorian count is like eleventy billion. Funny, 4 pages and nobody mentions that.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:28 pm to Mystery
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As you see him stab somebody in the back in the flashback
The person stabbed through the back was an Inquisitor that is currently active in the Rebels series.
I am only on one watch but I am absolutely sure about that.
Rebels takes place before ANH so there would have to be some explaining why Inquisitors were working after ROTJ.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:47 pm to Ralph Nader
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But from what I recall, Luke spent a long time learning how to use the force. He had a lot of trouble at first. He couldn't even move small objects.
Rey was just some girl fending for herself at the beginning of the movie, and then by the end of the movie, which seemed like a very short period of time, Rey holds her own and beats Kylo Ren in a light saber battle? How does that add up?
I think it is deliberately trying to show you that this chick is the real deal, and that while she might be just some girl, there is more to her than meets the eye, and probably comes from good stock (ie Skywalker).
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:50 pm to 19
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The other difference is, Rey's natural aptitude demonstrates that if the force was strong with Luke, its on steroids with her.
Thats what I get as well...I think her quick development was supposed to be deliberate, otherwise I agree with the OP (which we won't know for a long time) that it wouldn't make much sense for her to learn so quickly without training.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 6:06 pm to elprez00
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Or everyone is ignoring the fact that Kylo could just be a shitty force user. Perhaps his hate is driven by his lack of skill, and he's being used to these ends. This could drive him to do even more heinous feats to attempt to harness the dark power he's craving beyond killing his father. A desperate weak person is sometimes more scary than a strong confident person.
I think this is pretty logical. I think it is significant that he is not only young, but also good-looking (read not a wrinkled old man or a demon, or whatever jar jar is) as compared to other siths/dark siders. He is likely a pawn, and has been given great power, but has no clue how to use it.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 6:29 pm to OceanMan
I thought Jedi were like the priests/monks of the SW universe...IE The light side Jedi do not wed or have kids....Any confirmation that it is ok for Jedi to wed/make babies?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 6:42 pm to cajunatc
It's more that they aren't supposed to succumb to emotion or passion. That's why they don't get married, etc. Along that line of thought, I supposed it would be ok for Jedi to frick purely for the sake of reproduction as long as they don't give into emotion and passion.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 8:55 pm to Scoop
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The person stabbed through the back was an Inquisitor that is currently active in the Rebels series.
I agree with this, looked like a Inquisitor from current season 2 Rebels.
The movies never dealt with the role of Inquisitors before, but they would slot perfectly into the flashback Rey saw.
The Inquisitor role, besides hunting Rebels, is rounding up Force sensitive people. No reason to think that was not still an ongoing process in ROJ. After ROJ they could have served a purpose of maintaining a strong grip on the Empire remnants. Kylo is about the same training level as Rebel's Inquisitors it seems, he is not a Sith Lord.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:12 pm to Purple Spoon
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:30 pm to Ralph Nader
She is going to end up being Luke's daughter and will probably fall to the darkside by the end of the trilogy completing Luke's failure as a son and father where he failed to save both of his relation from the above.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:15 pm to Ralph Nader
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But from what I recall, Luke spent a long time learning how to use the force. He had a lot of trouble at first. He couldn't even move small objects.
moving objects is one of the most complicated aspects of the force. Rey has alot to learn about the force, but he has good control of her emotions which really helps her use the force well.
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Rey was just some girl fending for herself at the beginning of the movie, and then by the end of the movie, which seemed like a very short period of time, Rey holds her own and beats Kylo Ren in a light saber battle? How does that add up?
do you forget how quickly Luke learns how to use the force in the first movie? How he quickly becomes great with the Saber, yeah he doesn't fight with it but he goes from struggling to block laser shots to doing it with ease. This is the power of the force. Also did you notice her main weapon before she picks up a blaster or saber? She probably spent some learning how to fight I would bet. It's not unreasonable, fighting with a light saber is alot like fighting with a sword. The force gives you an advantage why jedi's are such masters with the Saber, but some one who is skilling with a sword type object could do well against a saber. Her being storng with the force and no feeding of anger and fear like Kylo gives her the advantage.
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Not 30 minutes before in the movie Kylo Ren uses the force to completely freeze her and control her and carry her on his ship. She couldn't even move. And then just 30 minutes later she's more powerful than him?
Emotions are pretty important in the force, pretty sure fear started to really creep in when he saw how powerful Rey was.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:21 pm to Rattlehead82
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A popular theory is just that she's had some training when she was very young and had her mind wiped. Add that to the probability that she's Luke's daughter, it's not a stretch for her to do the things she did.
she was 4 when they left, I think it is more likely that he separated from her to protect her, like he was when he was a child. Luke needs someone to continue the Jedi Line, protecting his daughter would be very key to this. the whole memory whipping theory is to much of a stretch.
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