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re: QT on Joe Rogan: 'If anybody has a problem with the Bruce Lee portrayal, go suck a d*ck'

Posted on 6/30/21 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by Mad_Mardigan
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 5:57 pm to
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Dude is a hack. An entertaining hack but still a hack.



This is one of the more interesting things I've ever read regarding QT.
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 6:29 pm to
Hadn't seen the movie, but that fight scene was entertaining. And though I don't frequently watch much Joe Rogan, the few time I have, always informative and worth it.

IDK how full of shite Tarantino is, but he does give a good interview.
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 6:38 pm to
Maybe its because I am blown away by Tarantino and have 1,000 questions I would love to ask him, but I didn't think Joe did that great of a job with the interview. His questions were pretty vague, like Joe was kinda unfamiliar with some of his movies.

Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:02 pm to
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We got some ignorant folks here.

Salmon was saying Libertarians would also disapprove of both UBI and UH. You said wrong to that
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:25 pm to
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IDK how full of shite Tarantino is, but he does give a good interview.


I think he’s the most authentic person in Hollywood.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:34 pm to
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He'll never be on the level of Nolan, Mann, Spielberg, etc.
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:00 pm to
Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman were both advocates of UBI.

The World is not a theoretical all-or-nothing labeling system.
There are all kinds of scenarios in which you could say a government role here would reduce a government role there, or that government action X results in more freedom for people across the board, etc.

By the way, Thomas Paine, Henry George, Charles Murray, Elon Musk -- all advocates of UBI.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:07 pm to
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There are all kinds of scenarios in which you could say a government role here

Yes I know but they are usually advocates for UBI only in the absence of all other welfare programs.
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:11 pm to
QT knows to never apologize in today's climate.
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:29 pm to
That's what I meant when I said "there".

Hayek and Friedman are highly regarded in terms of right-wing libertarianism.
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:49 pm to
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Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman were both advocates of UBI.

Friedman favored a negative income tax for low income earners- which still required work.

That’s totally different than UBI.

Hayek also rejected UBI.
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I do not question any individual’s right voluntarily to withdraw from civilisation. But what “entitlements” do such persons have? Are we to subsidise their hermitages? There cannot be any entitlement to be exempted from the rules on which civilisation rests. We may be able to assist the weak and disabled, the very young and old, but only if the sane and adult submit to the impersonal discipline which gives us means to do so.

He also required work. Totally different than UBI.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:22 am to
I've heard Friedman talk about it many times on YouTube.

His idea is a guaranteed minimum income, in weekly or monthly payments.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:36 am to
Friedrich Hayek Supported a Guaranteed Minimum Income
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We shall again take for granted the availability of a system of public relief which provides a uniform minimum for all instances of proved need, so that no member of the community need be in want of food or shelter.

quote:

the recognized duty of the public to provide for the extreme needs of old age, unemployment, sickness, etc.


The quotes are from The Constitution of Liberty.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:18 am to
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him, but I didn't think Joe did that great of a job with the interview


The first hour was especially rough. I think Rogan was baked out of his mind for this interview.. Which was just about the worst thing he could have done. He had nothing but a blank, glazed over unreactionary look on his face much of the time. QT was even setting him up to interject into the conversation a lot and he just sat there and said "hmmmm, that's interesting."

He also asked different versions of the same question about 15 times. It was basically "How did you feel when you were getting famous."

It was jusf kind of embarrassing the whole way round on Joe's part. It's one of the bigger fumbles I can remember with a guest that big.

He has obviously watched QTs movies, but didn't seem particularly interested in many of them. The Manson Family stuff was what finally got the interview flowing.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:49 am to
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It was jusf kind of embarrassing the whole way round on Joe's part. It's one of the bigger fumbles I can remember with a guest that big.


That's a lot of Rogan interviews if its not about fighting or MMA.

He's not as worldly or intellectual as he thinks he is and is stoned for a lot of the interviews.

Every actor guest or director he just agrees that some shitty movies are great.

QT can be a great interview because he's honest and rich and doesn't give a shite but Joe didn't even acknowledge or discuss the fact that a year earlier he went off on QT for his portrayal of Bruce Lee. So QT was basically telling Rogan to go suck a dick and baked man just sat there and giggled.

He doesn't do his homework anymore and seems to have a terrible memory...or just doesn't know stuff as his Googler on the show is his most valuable asset. Most of his shows are just letting the guest ramble on unless he's talking about comics, MMA or News Radio or hallucinogenics, etc.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 3:51 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22748 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:21 am to
Theae are supposedly upcoming guests. I expect the Stallone interview will go much better than the QT one because they likely will talk alot about fighting and PEDs.

Mark Schultz also stands out because he's one of the great "what ifs" ever in MMA.


Also will be glad to see the Eddie Bravo episode, as well as Joey Diaz talking 1970s north Jersey with David Chase.

Rogan will fumble the Ric Flair episode, but Flair is such a good storyteller it will be good.


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July

Ric Flair
Retired professional wrestler


Glenn Greenwald
Journalist, author




September 2021

Josh Dubin
Lawyer, activist, Innocence Project Ambassador Advisor





Date To Be Announced

Rob Wolf
Author, paleo diet advocate


Joey Diaz / David Chase
Stand-up comedian, actor / Writer, director, creator of The Sopranos


John Dudley
Professional archer, archery coach


Randall Carlson
Geological and anthropological theorist


Adam Greentree
Hunter, adventurer


Philip Goff
Philosopher and consciousness
researcher


John Wayne Parr
World Champion kickboxer


Rizwan Virk
Entrepreneur, angel investor, author of The Simulation Hypothesis


Rory MacDonald / Yves Edwards
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Greg Hardy
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Mike Posner
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Writer, journalist, founder of Feminist Current blog/podcast


Megyn Kelly
Journalist, TV personality


Ryan Hall
Mixed martial artist in the UFC (Featherweight)


Jamie Foxx
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Mark Schultz
World Champion freestyle wrestler, Olympic gold medalist


Sylvester Stallone
Actor


Chatri Sityodtong
Founder/CEO of ONE Championship


Stephen West
Host of Philosophize This! podcast


Tony Ferguson / Eddie Bravo
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Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:42 am to
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Hayek and Friedman are highly regarded in terms of right-wing libertarianism.


But that’s not what I am saying about guys like Rogan. He supports UBI plus all other means of welfare. That’s not a libertarian position. But he has a problem with taxes weirdly
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 6:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:49 am to
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Randall Carlson

the best guest on that list by far
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12877 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:52 am to
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I've heard Friedman talk about it many times on YouTube.

Then listen again for the nuance. From my reading of Capitalism and Freedom, he makes it clear that his negative income tax is a subsidy for workers. It ultimately became the earned income tax credit. He actually cautions AGAINST guaranteed income for all.

If you want to go deeper, let's take this to the Poli Board. This will be a good weekend for the topic, and the Movie Board is not the place for it.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4853 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:26 am to
I have always thought Joe would be better not in that "interviewer" role as much. I know he views it as just having conversations, but the whole dynamic of the podcast puts him in that role to a large degree.

To this day, this is my favorite Rogan video ever. He's sort of in the opposite role in this radio appearance. As one of the hosts says about his old TV days, "let Joe go".

I mean, obviously people like the podcast as is, but for me, it always had more potential with someone else doing the "interviewer" role, but still a loose format so Joe can just "go".
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