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Posted on 2/6/20 at 10:33 am to audodger
Just finished this and it's absolutely a masterpiece. Definitely one of the best films in the last decade.
I LOVED Joker, but this movie had so many layers to it it's ridiculous. A roller coaster of emotions is an understatement with this movie.
I LOVED Joker, but this movie had so many layers to it it's ridiculous. A roller coaster of emotions is an understatement with this movie.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 10:46 pm to SnoopALoop
Loved it.
Seems like every Korean film I stumble upon turns out to be great.
I'm a big fan of The Wailing
And Train to Busan was a masterpiece as well.
Seems like every Korean film I stumble upon turns out to be great.
I'm a big fan of The Wailing
And Train to Busan was a masterpiece as well.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:04 am to hubertcumberdale
There are so many things wrong with your post. One of your complaints is that the movie takes place in one location for the majority of the movie.
WTF? Sorry there aren’t marvel characters jumping around from planet to planet in this one.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 12:05 am
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:07 am to UnluckyTiger
The movie was decent, really went off the rails though and kind of lost my interest in the second half. The ending was laughable and just didn’t smell right (hehe). Sorry I have a different opinion than you.
And plz don’t confuse me for a marvel fan, that’s the most offensive thing I’ve been assumed as in a while.
And plz don’t confuse me for a marvel fan, that’s the most offensive thing I’ve been assumed as in a while.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:08 am to hubertcumberdale
Really liked it and well done. I’d take that wife any day of the week including Sunday. That house was badass as well.


This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 7:11 am
Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:39 am to hubertcumberdale
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The movie was decent, really went off the rails though and kind of lost my interest in the second half.
I don't know if this is a troll or not. If so, you must've been in the "joker is too violent" camp too.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:56 pm to SnoopALoop
Nope, just didnt really think it was that great.
SPOILERSSSSS
I get the underlying message, class inequality, what would you do to get your family out of poverty, yada yada, whatever.
The poor people pissed me off though. Not only did they do everything they could to frick over the other poor working class servants for the rich family, but the rich family seemed to be good, respectable people. They never belittled or did anything wrong to the servants other than be somewhat offended by the smell of the driver. Even then, he didnt tell him he smelled bad explicitly or did anything to let him know he smelled like shite.
Someone who is that rich is not that fricking stupid either. Why would they fire their entire staff and replace them with the suggestions of the tutor, who they also just met? Not only that, but background checks are pretty easy to run and common, they wouldnt make the link that they are all related? Especially considering they are doing very intimate tasks for the family such as driving, tutoring, taking care of the house and I am supposed to believe that the rich family is the most gullible frickers to exist in the history of the world, give me a break.
Why would the servant family go to the rich familys house when they are camping for a couple days? The weather was terrible, did they not figure they might come home? When the past servant comes back, WHY WOULD YOU LET HER IN THE HOUSE?! She is supposedly in communication with the rich family son, why wouldnt she just tell on the new servant family and get her job back? And her husband living in the basement for extended period of time? Give me a break. So she goes to feed her poor hungry husband hiding in the basement for months and everything goes haywire bc guess what, the weather is terrible and the family decides to cancel the camping trip. Laugh out fricking loud, no shite. EVERYONE HIDE! ONLY 8 MINUTES! MAKE SOME BEEF SOUP ASAP!
The rest of the movie is the poor family trying to hide from the rich family under their nose, and they can apparently even smell them but just ignore that. So after much drama they make it out the house, but the old house keeper is KO'd with her husband in the basement. The rich family decides to have a party and invite the new servant family over. The old servant family makes it out of the basement and the old dude goes and stabs one of the rich fam, knife gets wrestled out his hand, and low and behold the new driver is just so mortified that he smells bad, he picks up the knife and stabs the dad? Absolutely zero provacation whatsoever, and they were hiding so many secrets, why wouldnt he stab the guy who just came out the basement who attempted to murder the wife??? He would have been viewed as a hero and rewarded, but instead murder the dad, which is laughable and not believable. Goes back and hides in the basement for the rest of eternity.
I understand the messages that was trying to be conveyed, but just dont think the movie did a very good job at being anything other than shocking. The acting was good too. The dad of the new servant family says, "You can't go wrong with no plans. We don't need to make a plan for anything. It doesn't matter what will happen next," which kind of underscores the entire movie. There was no plan to this movie other than to try and be shocking and be 5 diff types of movies all rolled up into one. Again, 6.5/10. LOL at "Best movie of the decade" comment.
SPOILERSSSSS
I get the underlying message, class inequality, what would you do to get your family out of poverty, yada yada, whatever.
The poor people pissed me off though. Not only did they do everything they could to frick over the other poor working class servants for the rich family, but the rich family seemed to be good, respectable people. They never belittled or did anything wrong to the servants other than be somewhat offended by the smell of the driver. Even then, he didnt tell him he smelled bad explicitly or did anything to let him know he smelled like shite.
Someone who is that rich is not that fricking stupid either. Why would they fire their entire staff and replace them with the suggestions of the tutor, who they also just met? Not only that, but background checks are pretty easy to run and common, they wouldnt make the link that they are all related? Especially considering they are doing very intimate tasks for the family such as driving, tutoring, taking care of the house and I am supposed to believe that the rich family is the most gullible frickers to exist in the history of the world, give me a break.
Why would the servant family go to the rich familys house when they are camping for a couple days? The weather was terrible, did they not figure they might come home? When the past servant comes back, WHY WOULD YOU LET HER IN THE HOUSE?! She is supposedly in communication with the rich family son, why wouldnt she just tell on the new servant family and get her job back? And her husband living in the basement for extended period of time? Give me a break. So she goes to feed her poor hungry husband hiding in the basement for months and everything goes haywire bc guess what, the weather is terrible and the family decides to cancel the camping trip. Laugh out fricking loud, no shite. EVERYONE HIDE! ONLY 8 MINUTES! MAKE SOME BEEF SOUP ASAP!
The rest of the movie is the poor family trying to hide from the rich family under their nose, and they can apparently even smell them but just ignore that. So after much drama they make it out the house, but the old house keeper is KO'd with her husband in the basement. The rich family decides to have a party and invite the new servant family over. The old servant family makes it out of the basement and the old dude goes and stabs one of the rich fam, knife gets wrestled out his hand, and low and behold the new driver is just so mortified that he smells bad, he picks up the knife and stabs the dad? Absolutely zero provacation whatsoever, and they were hiding so many secrets, why wouldnt he stab the guy who just came out the basement who attempted to murder the wife??? He would have been viewed as a hero and rewarded, but instead murder the dad, which is laughable and not believable. Goes back and hides in the basement for the rest of eternity.
I understand the messages that was trying to be conveyed, but just dont think the movie did a very good job at being anything other than shocking. The acting was good too. The dad of the new servant family says, "You can't go wrong with no plans. We don't need to make a plan for anything. It doesn't matter what will happen next," which kind of underscores the entire movie. There was no plan to this movie other than to try and be shocking and be 5 diff types of movies all rolled up into one. Again, 6.5/10. LOL at "Best movie of the decade" comment.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:07 pm to CBandits82
Is Parasite a gorry movie??
Posted on 2/7/20 at 7:50 pm to Shotgun Willie
quote:Not really overall but their is a one short scene that would most definitely be considered gorry.
Is Parasite a gorry movie??
Posted on 2/7/20 at 9:36 pm to hubertcumberdale
Yea i don’t get the raving praise for this movie. It’s definitely clever, well shot, and well acted, but the praise is way over the top in my opinion.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:02 pm to audodger
Finally watched this today. Holy shot that was amazing.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:06 pm to razorbackfan4life
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Seems like every Korean film I stumble upon turns out to be great.
Check out Bad Guy.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:31 pm to The Dozer
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Yea i don’t get the raving praise for this movie. It’s definitely clever, well shot, and well acted, but the praise is way over the top in my opinion.
I’m kind of here on this.
Watched it last night and I really liked it. It’s an interesting story with strong characters created and really good direction but I just can’t quite get on board with it as Best Picture.
I’d also like some thoughts on what exactly the message was supposed to be. I see a lot of comments talking about the great message but I actually don’t see much of a broad theme other than perhaps the fact that classes exist and both have stereotypes of the other.
If anything I thought the lower class, who I assume were supposed to be the protagonists, and I do think they started out as pretty likable, became absolutely despicable characters. Like I truly found them all revolting the moment they gained access to the wealthy family, who I actually found pretty honorable and sympathetic.
The smell was the only thing in their interactions that I felt kind of bad for the lower class family but the upper class didn’t do anything to necessarily put them down about it and in fact tried to hide the fact that they noticed it at all (other than the young boy who simply made the child like observation that they smelled alike, not in a derogatory manner imo. It was simply part of the plan that the lower class family didn’t think about and realized they needed to be more careful).
I found the attack by the father to be wholely I unsympathetic and unprovoked, a purely selfish and petty act that completely erased any good Will one could feel for that family or the father especially.
I honestly just don’t know what the “message” was supposed to be. Maybe that would raise my appreciation to the level it’s getting by many on here if I understood what that meant exactly.
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:52 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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If anything I thought the lower class, who I assume were supposed to be the protagonists, and I do think they started out as pretty likable, became absolutely despicable characters. Like I truly found them all revolting the moment they gained access to the wealthy family, who I actually found pretty honorable and sympathetic.
This was a purposeful transition. You're supposed to feel sympathy for them and then quickly realize that they're not good people. You can still feel slight empathy for them at that point because they're just trying to survive by any means possible. It's meant to make you go back and forth between the rich and the poor. I think the overall message is that we are all just humans doing what we can to survive - some of us are just more successful than others.
There's a character study of the severely poor and the kind of desperation that breeds.
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I found the attack by the father to be wholely I unsympathetic and unprovoked, a purely selfish and petty act that completely erased any good Will one could feel for that family or the father especially.
Again, felt like the whole point. You see a man finally pushed to his breaking point and losing all sense of reality and decency.
It's art, so it's not going to resonate with everyone the same way. I think we have to get back to not judging people because they don't enjoy everything that we do.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 2:08 pm to Wanderin Reb
Thanks Reb, I like your interpretation and think it’s pretty similar to my feelings actually.
I did the think my biggest problem with the poor family was that they weren’t just “trying to survive”.
They were actually trying to enrich themselves, not just “survive”. And they did it at the expense of not just the rich, but maliciously harmed other working class people as well to make that enrichment possible.
Like I didn’t care that the kid forged university papers. He was obviously smart and was going to do a good job as tutor for them. No harm done.
Even the sister lying about being some famous art therapist or whatever. No big deal, she seemed to treat the boy well and had a sort of placebo effect on the mother as well.
But once they took the steps to bring in the mother and father, they became despicable imo.
The poor family seemed more corrupted by money than the rich, if that makes sense.
Not sure if that was the intent or what others are referring to, but it’s what I found most striking.
I did the think my biggest problem with the poor family was that they weren’t just “trying to survive”.
They were actually trying to enrich themselves, not just “survive”. And they did it at the expense of not just the rich, but maliciously harmed other working class people as well to make that enrichment possible.
Like I didn’t care that the kid forged university papers. He was obviously smart and was going to do a good job as tutor for them. No harm done.
Even the sister lying about being some famous art therapist or whatever. No big deal, she seemed to treat the boy well and had a sort of placebo effect on the mother as well.
But once they took the steps to bring in the mother and father, they became despicable imo.
The poor family seemed more corrupted by money than the rich, if that makes sense.
Not sure if that was the intent or what others are referring to, but it’s what I found most striking.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 3:56 pm to Wanderin Reb
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This was a purposeful transition. You're supposed to feel sympathy for them and then quickly realize that they're not good people. You can still feel slight empathy for them at that point because they're just trying to survive by any means possible. It's meant to make you go back and forth between the rich and the poor. I think the overall message is that we are all just humans doing what we can to survive - some of us are just more successful than others.
Agree. It was a refreshing take on class, as most movies we see dealing with this subject portray the rich as powerful, snobby assholes and the poor people as true, good hearted people just trying to catch their break. But like this movies shows, poor people can often not care about other people as well
Posted on 2/9/20 at 4:03 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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They were actually trying to enrich themselves, not just “survive”. And they did it at the expense of not just the rich, but maliciously harmed other working class people as well to make that enrichment possible.
Isn’t that reality, though?
It’s why politicians like Bernie and Warren are so foolish to me. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor doesn’t solve the world’s ills because the world’s worst ill is the human drive to procure and secure the most resources for their family and tribe.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 4:21 pm to The Dozer
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Yea i don’t get the raving praise for this movie.
quote:
It’s definitely clever, well shot, and well acted,
Because It’s definitely clever, well shot, and well acted.
And it's raining in LA, place your bets. Either way this was a very good movie.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 5:31 pm to jg8623
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It was a refreshing take on class, as most movies we see dealing with this subject portray the rich as powerful, snobby assholes and the poor people as true, good hearted people just trying to catch their break. But like this movies shows, poor people can often not care about other people as well
Oh I agree, it’s just that all of the love coming from Hollywood on this one is a bit surprising given that message, unless like I said maybe I had missed the message that they seem to be praising so much.
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