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re: Paradise on Hulu

Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:37 am to
I enjoyed season 5, but


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I just couldn't buy that Gary would murder Ennis. Everything they showed us about Gary up to that point was a kind-hearted, rational, understanding guy. Not someone that would just snap and murder his best friend because he was going to divulge info about a train. Sure, he was in love with Terri and didn't want to see her and Bean leave, but murdering his best friend over it? Hell, why couldn't Gary just go on the frickin train with them?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:43 am to
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I too am really enjoying this season but could understand how some would be frustrated with very little paradise action.


Agreed. The 2nd episode, showing the doctor/Graceland story was a bit draggy, but it and the next one really did a great job of building the doctor's character. That made the end of the last episode a solid emotional ride.

All that said, glad it's over and we get to move on from the Memphis area.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:48 am to
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just couldn't buy that Gary would murder Ennis.


Don’t you know about that Ennis magic?

This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 11:22 am to
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Don’t you know about that Ennis magic?



I'd like to forget...
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:51 pm to
Gary and his bf, forgot his name, bonded over being lonely in the real world. So much so they got a group of doomsday people together who were also lonely.

The bf even picked the nurse who he was attracted to in hopes of hooking up, I don’t remember another middle aged or attractive enough male in the group. He didn’t expect her to be a lesbian and him being miserable is shown through the flashbacks. Gary latches on Terri and doesn’t want to end up alone again and after being in a bunker for so long, yeah, you go a little crazy.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 4:25 pm to
I get all that, and I understand the reasoning, which is why I don't have a huge problem with it. I enjoyed the episode. I just didn't find that part very believable. Hell, maybe I'm just in denial because they made me really like Gary, and at the end of the episode they made me not like him
This post was edited on 3/11/26 at 9:27 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:57 am to
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I get all that, and I understand the reasoning, which is why I don't have a huge problem with it. I enjoyed the episode. I just didn't find that part very believable. Hell, maybe I'm just in denial because they made me really like Gary, and at the end of the episode they made me not like him


Gary was a pretty hardcore loner, he had almost no people skills and apparently not only kept him from finding a mate but also even a good friend. Ennis becomes his best friend. He's not familiar with close relationships so he quickly goes from admiring Terri to believing he's in love with her.

Think of it like the "puppy love" kids get into in Jr High, except that he's an adult and never had those experiences before to teach him there are different kinds of relationships and how to move on from a rejection. So he internalizes it. Yes, he's saying she's his friend to everyone, but inside he's burning for her so deeply that he would rather her stay there and not be with him romantically than he would for her to leave.

Ennis' statements put out loud Gary's biggest fear. In that moment we learn his misplaced feelings for Terri are greater than his feelings of friendship toward Ennis.

From the brief moment we saw at the end, it's very possible the others aren't being held by the train folks but that Bean ran ahead and warned them of Gary's actions and they had fled. Gary has likely been alone for a short period, enough to create enough of a fictitious tale for himself that when Xavier showed up, he didn't have to create much else new.

Terri and Bean may well be with the train people voluntarily, with her helping them to supplement their fuel with her mushroom (or whatever) concoction. If so, it may be that he sends Xavier after the train people in the hopes they will kill him and he can swoop in to fill the void in Terri's heart (maybe he doesn't know that Bean saw him, or else has gotten so lost in his romantic dream that he forgets/ignores it).
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/11/26 at 10:00 am to
Is anybody a fan of the Netflix show Mindhunter? I kept thinking that I knew Gary’s voice from somewhere so I looked it up. Same actor that played Ed Kemper so well.

Maybe Kemper survived the apocalypse and is disguised as a mailman. All of the missing are his victims. Obviously a stupid joke. But nice to see that actor. The way he talks is soothing but also has something else behind it. I wanted to trust the character but something kept seeming off. By time we got to the final scene with Ennis I saw it coming…but mainly because I knew Xavier would be on the right track that something was wrong with Gary. Plus seeing Ennis make amends signaled a twist coming.
Posted by GatorPA84
PNW
Member since Sep 2016
6278 posts
Posted on 3/11/26 at 12:37 pm to
Wow you nailed it, I told me wife the “mailman” did a fantastic job in his roll and makes sense he played Kemper so well.
This post was edited on 3/11/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
1542 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:13 pm to
Just finished the new episode, two more to go before the second season is complete. I'm not really enjoying it like season 1, but it'll be interesting to see how they wrap it up.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:35 pm to
Enjoying this season but the scenes outside the bunker are much more interesting to me.

But, the scene in the newest episode where Jane has the militia train guy in a headlock while simultaneously negotiating terms for a meeting might be my favorite “this show made a pretty 100lb woman an unstoppable badass” scene of all time.

Jane is the greatest assassin still alive, conniving enough to convince Sinatra that shooting her was a good idea, strong enough to manhandle men 1.5x her size and yet simple enough to be placated by a Nintendo Switch. Quite the character.
Posted by Someone
West Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2007
2012 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:48 pm to
SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 6:


Did anyone else notice the email sent to the Circuit City guy in 1997 came from “Alex Q.”?

Sinatra’s “Alex” may be a way to send messages back to the past and possibly travel there.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 1:21 am to
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Did anyone else notice the email sent to the Circuit City guy in 1997 came from “Alex Q.”?

Sinatra’s “Alex” may be a way to send messages back to the past and possibly travel there
I paused it specifically to see who sent it. It’ll be interesting to see who/what Alex is. That may be the season ending cliff hanger.

I’m enjoying the show, huge fan of Marsden and Sterling K Brown. The slow burn - cliffhanger each episode is not usually my style, but it sort of works here. I think a slow burn throughout would bore too many people and all cliffhanger/shockers would be too ridiculous.

This past episode was probably my least favorite of the last few, but looking forward to see how they wrap up the season next 2 episodes. The end of S2E4 was gut wrenching to me.
Posted by Easye921
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:32 am to
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But, the scene in the newest episode where Jane has the militia train guy in a headlock while simultaneously negotiating terms for a meeting might be my favorite “this show made a pretty 100lb woman an unstoppable 


I guess, but I thought she left herself wide open to be shot in the head. Even a half decent shooter could have shot her in the head at that range before she could pull the trigger.

I do love the show tho. I'm extremely interested to see next week's episode to see where things go.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:47 am to
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I guess, but I thought she left herself wide open to be shot in the head. Even a half decent shooter could have shot her in the head at that range before she could pull the trigger.
They arrived at the bunker to meet with the leader, hence Link’s cards. Sure, they could have shot Jane, but they weren’t going to do that unless she opened fire first since she’s the only person the bunker sent out. I would think Jane knew they wouldn’t just point blank shoot her and was just leveraging the situation to show she was serious and wasn’t there to be taken hostage or anything.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:34 am to
There was no reason for her to come out aggressive. This was just one of those tv show “I’m woman, hear me roar” moments
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:45 am to
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There was no reason for her to come out aggressive. This was just one of those tv show “I’m woman, hear me roar” moments
I don’t agree at all. I’ve explained why she would come out that way. Just because you’ve seen shite like that in other shows and movies doesn’t mean it’s the same intent every time.

Easily, she’s very disturbed and good at murder, she’s sent out alone into a large armed group, that had recently doubled in size with unknown intentions other than Link’s cards.

Having a quick show of force, so she could ask to speak to the card cutie leader and negotiate terms, wasn’t some manufactured girl power show. It had reasoning behind it. If Xavier or Billy had done the same thing, it would’ve been the same reasoning. In fact, Xavier has been early aggressive in prior situations as well.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:49 am to
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There was no reason for her to come out aggressive. This was just one of those tv show “I’m woman, hear me roar” moments


She walks out alone and instantly the odds are heavily against her. She gets one of them and suddenly the odds are a little better for her because they don’t want to see one of their people die.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:52 am to
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Jane is the greatest assassin still alive, conniving enough to convince Sinatra that shooting her was a good idea, strong enough to manhandle men 1.5x her size and yet simple enough to be placated by a Nintendo Switch. Quite the character.




The training scenes for her were 100% black widow in avengers.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11033 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:43 am to
She’s flown under everyone’s radar by being meek and mild. It just doesn’t fit with the character
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