re: Outlander season 5 spoilers included

If they will stick to the books, the parts in the colonies in regards to the upcoming revolution are really interesting. They should show Fergus more. He has a large role in the books, as do the twins, the Bugs, etc.

The scene you mentioned was as ridiculous as you say and after all the miraculous recoveries, escapes, and reunifications in the show the result was never in question. I winced when I realize I’d spend an hour watching Jamie recover from a snake bite and literally nothing else would happen.

Wake me up in 1775, I hope the show runners have it in them to do a decent season around the war. This frontier soap opera shite is not very good.

This season was moving pretty good until the "Buffalo" scene. (this is a spoilers included thread).

They jumped the shark on this one pretty bad and it could have been a good episode. Young Ian going off on Jamie was a strong moment for example. He is actually developing into a solid supporting character.

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I disagree it was going strong until the Buffalo scene. I feel like each episode on the range is built up tension for no reason. They do 12 episode seasons and could easily do 8

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While I thought this season got off to a slow start, I really felt it had gained solid footing in the last few episodes until this one.

But I get your view. I've had to struggle through a little. I really miss them being in Scotland tooling around the country side getting into trouble. It has become a bit of a Harlequin Soap Opera

Jamie came to life literally. Lol

Nobody chimed in on last weeks episode "Journeycake" and last night we had the season 5 finale "Never My Love".

Journeycake was a nice set up for the finale where Brianna, Roger and their child decide to go back to the future. Young Ian learns the whole secret of Claire and Company and his personal secret is tearing him apart. Claire Gets kidnapped while Jamie and his team were victims of a distraction which leads into a brutal season finale where Claire is gang-raped and the writers in a clever way, use Claire "dreaming" of every one living happily in the 60's has a way to put herself in a different place while the assault is going on.

Roger Brianna and the little one are teleported...to the other side of the rock in the same time period. (I guess the rock knows where a traveler is supposed to be rather than where they want to be).

while it was a tough episode, I felt it was a little rushed. Certainly not the assault part, but Jamie's hunt of the gang that took Claire. One scene show's him leaving with his men in the day and then then next scene is night and Jamie's team has found them and his having a shootout where they prevail.

I'm not sure if this is going to sound right, but I was a little surprise how they wrote Claire essentially using her strong will and determination to declare that the assault will not keep her down and the show ends with Clair and Jaime naked in bed with her body all bruised...Jaime took a whole season to recover emotionally from her his assault and Brianna as well. It just seemed "rushed" again..

I'm pretty sure they will have a season 6, but it was filmed in such a way that if the series doesn't get renewed it could end right there.

There's more to discuss but I want to hear what others think.

Black Sails could never be made on this version of Starz.

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Never My Love was decent other than the idiotic “flash out” scenes

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I understood the point of them, but part of the reason I hated those scenes is that song was awful.