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re: Oprah's ultra-PC ‘Wrinkle in Time’ stung with bad reviews as ‘cringeworthy’

Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:25 am to
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:25 am to
The folks I watch for reviews on youtube were bending over backwards to try and be positive but they couldn't. They loved the preachy message but at the end of the day the movie wasn't very good. They praised Okra and the little black girl, hated the white kid and thought the movie was a big jumble of pretty set pieces.
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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:36 am to
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Reese Witherspoon has publicly said Oprah was a bitch to most of the people on the set throughout filming
So long Reese's career, we hardly knew ye
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:39 am to
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If I can get an 8yr old to take a critical look at something like this, why can’t the rest of America take it upon themselves to do the same.
B/c you're giving the SJWs money

People don't seem to realize that they are the ones who subsidize the PC Forces they bitch about
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 6:48 am to
I've only read the Variety review. I noted the reviewer didn't much care for the film, but carefully tiptoed around saying that outright.

What he did celebrate was the film's "inclusiveness" and "diversity" and "representation" -- not "minority representation" anymore, just plain old "representation". A term has officially made the PC HOF when it no longer needs an adjective.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:13 am to
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B/c you're giving the SJWs money


I will ask moviepass to do it begrudgingly.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:20 am to
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Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:21 am to
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I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but an apartment in a big city isn't the same as one in bayou lapoot.


Oprah probably owns the apartments
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 8:34 am to
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The most famous cast members at the time those movies were released were liv Tyler for being hot and being a rock star’s daughter and Rudy

Ian Mckellan
Cate Blanchett
Christopher Lee
Sean Bean
Hugo Weaving
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 10:18 am to
Overly preachy movies violate the first rule of film marketing... as the late Sam Goldwyn said "If you want to send a message, use Western Union."

People go to movies to be entertained, not enlightened. If its a really good movie that happens to have a message, fine. That is great and wonderful and huzzah for the film maker.

The reviews I've read on it basically do a little song and dance around the fact that it just isn't very good. While the Mythbusters did pull it off, for the most part you can't polish a turd and this movie sounds like a turd.

Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 12:34 pm to
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$86 Million over a period of 6 weeks.

$86 Million divided by an average of $10.85 per ticket rounds out to a grand total of...

Just over 7.9 million tickets purchased over a span of 6 weeks. That means less than 3% of the U.S. population cared enough to see it in theaters, even if none of those were multiple viewings.

So it made 86 million.
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Contrast that to Black Panther, which has earned over $516 million domestic since February 16th (3 weeks).


Contrast the Emoji Movie to Black Panther. You've gone too far when you're doing this.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/18 at 5:58 pm to
The reviews I’ve seen are hilarious. It’s so bad that no one is willing to say it’s good. But it’s so diverse, and minority driven, and woke and apparently legitimately, over the top about the power of black women that they can’t outrighy say it’s bad. The loops they have to go through to be remotely intellectually honest but appease the SJW Twitterafia is fantastic
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 6:02 pm
Posted by WAY2GOLSU
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:12 pm to
I'm to lazy to find the article I read a few days ago. But it said that in the book Christianity plays a big role, and in the movie they completely omit it all together. The article claims this makes the whole movie confusing.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:52 pm to
Don't build a strawman. Ava Duvernay has never claimed she wanted to be post-racial, and even if she did, she doesn't speak for any group but herself.

She was very forthright from the beginning that she wanted a minority heavy cast because this was her first, and maybe only, shot at making a big budget fantasy movie, and that was just her prerogative.

If I had to take 3 guesses why this is not scoring well with audiences

1. The book's secondary themes about time/space travel, telepathy, and emotional connections all serve as a major hindrance to filming a movie primarily about not fitting in or conforming.

2. Key parts of the novel have bled into pop culture a la the "Seinfeld isn't funny" trope. The evil being is referred to as "It". The dystopian world is black and gray. Nonconformity is the most overdone trope of all time.

3. The CGI looks terrible. Disney appears to have half-assed the effects, costumes, make up - everything looks like a tv movie quality.

I heard the child actress on NPR the other day and she sounded adorable. Maybe she's charming enough to win over kids and a few parents.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:25 pm to
I love the hypocrisy in this article: Watching 'A Wrinkle in Time' is a political act

Like really, who cares if it’s a good movie or not? You have to buy a ticket because it’s about intersectionalism.

Meanwhile you have an actual great movie like “Annihilation” that is about women, has women of different races and sexual orientations, and has women in STEM fields, but do they give a shite? No, they’re out to promote selling garbage to kids and the populace. You can’t have a smart film with this crap in the backdrop. You have to shove it down our fricking throats instead of being smart and subtle about it. Keep it up Hollywood.

No way in hell I watch this piece of shite in the theaters, since it has to be exceptionally atrocious for it to get bad reviews given the film’s goals and that Disney made it. These reviewers who gave “The Last Jedi” a glowing review know it’s too bad to get any semblance of a recommendation, which threatens their careers.

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It remains to be seen whether "A Wrinkle in Time" will experience anything like the same box-office success and emotional resonance with African-American audiences that "Black Panther" has had.


I’m going to go out on a limb and say it won’t.

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We long to embark on heroic quests in which the very qualities society deems "wrong" about us -- a love of math and science for example -- become tools for positive transformation and change.


OK, I’m going to call this racist bitch out: Where the frick were you when it came to Annihilation?! Jesus Christ. Such fricking hypocrisy. Everything they claim to ask for was presented in this film.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/10/18 at 6:41 pm to
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It remains to be seen whether "A Wrinkle in Time" will experience anything like the same box-office success and emotional resonance with African-American audiences that "Black Panther" has had.


Like hoping that The Shape of Water will do Avengers numbers.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24835 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:19 pm to
Saw it...

It wasn’t over the top SJW, but there was some things. Overall not a very good movie. The kids liked it, but it did little justice to the book, and my daughter said as much with the comment, “the book was way better.”

It cut out some major stuff like the entire planet of Exchel, and the 2D planet. Save your money, watch it on DVD if you must.

EDIT: I didn’t appreciate the coming out movie preview on a PG movie. That was all kinds of bullshite. I support people’s choices in life, but allow me to decide when I will broach this subject with my kid.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2234 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:26 pm to
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It wasn’t over the top SJW, but there was some things. Overall not a very good movie. The kids liked it, but it did little justice to the book, and my daughter said as much with the comment, “the book was way better.”


Saw its as well, almost exactly same review except I would call it an average movie, didn't feel like of a waste of time leaving the house, but have no interest in watching or even thinking about this movie again. Didn't find it anymore SJW than any current TV show and the mom is smoking hot.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24835 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:45 pm to
Yeah, that’s fair enough. It’s worth moviepass, but not the price of a movie ticket.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:23 am to
Here we go. Now the director is claiming racism for bad reviews. This is absolutely laughable given my favorite reviewers are more than little liberal and they bent over backwards to try and be positive but they couldn't.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:05 am to
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Here we go. Now the director is claiming racism for bad reviews. This is absolutely laughable given my favorite reviewers are more than little liberal and they bent over backwards to try and be positive but they couldn't.



Well I can understand her being upset, I don't agree with her, but I can understand it. This was her big movie with A list stars and all the power of Disney behind it... and it stinks on ice. A person's true character is revealed during adversity and she's proven herself to be a whiny a-hole.
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