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re: Oppenheimer is deeply flawed.

Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:35 am to
I finally got around to seeing this a week or so ago. The cast and acting is magnificent, the biopic insights were somewhat interesting for the bits I didn't know already. Overall, it was entertaining to a history/science nerd like me but I can see where it wouldn't keep a lot of peoples attention for three hours.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Mamou
Member since Oct 2007
541 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:32 am to
quote:

The Moonlight of 2023 would most certainly be a film like Poor Things.


I meant a movie few will watch after 2023.
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
2560 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 11:52 am to
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meant a movie few will watch after 2023

Even if true, why does that matter?
Posted by HueyLongJr
Mamou
Member since Oct 2007
541 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:16 pm to
Why the frick does it matter that a movie won an Oscar? It’s laughable.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65146 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:36 pm to
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I meant a movie few will watch after 2023.


You could have chosen any number of Best Picture winners from the last decade and a half to make that point:

The Artist
Argo
12 Years a Slave
Birdman
Spotlight
Moonlight
The Shape of Water
Green Book
Parasite
Nomadland
CODA
Everything Everywhere All At Once

Very few of those (if any) demand a rewatch.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11670 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Everything Everywhere All At Once


It’s 2024 and people are watching it so I guess this one deserves it by his logic.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35568 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:34 pm to
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The Artist - No
Argo - definitely maybe
12 Years a Slave - no
Birdman - couldn't pay me to watch it again
Spotlight - no go, not even 1 time
Moonlight - trailer was long enough
The Shape of Water - nope
Green Book - No
Parasite - uhm, maybe... But haven't yet
Nomadland - que??
CODA
Everything Everywhere All At Once - meh

Very few of those (if any) demand a rewatch.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:55 pm to
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The 3rd part was the most drama filled and best part of the movie for me. What in the mother fricking frick is OP talking about?


I get what he's saying. His philosophy is there cannot be drama without high stakes, and a random dudes confirmation hearing for commerce secretary is not something world changing. No one gives a shite whether this dude is confirmed or not.

I disagree in that though. The drama is in the writing and acting of the event, not how important the outcome of the event is. For me, a good writer/actor/director could make the cooking of a grilled cheese sandwich high drama.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25160 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:12 pm to
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deeply



I'd say you have a point, but while accurate, I'd not go that far.

The weight of the making of and detonating the bomb is supposed to draw us all in. And I think it does, for the most part.

Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
2560 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Why the frick does it matter that a movie won an Oscar? It’s laughable.

Your deeply flawed comment is pretty laughable too, so…
Posted by HueyLongJr
Mamou
Member since Oct 2007
541 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:03 pm to
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For me, a good writer/actor/director could make the cooking of a grilled cheese sandwich high drama


i deeply agree with this, LOL. I rarely watch a movie without knowing the plot because i want to focus on how they're telling the story.

My problem with Oppenheimer is that the last act switches the dramatic focus to Strauss, and no one gives a hoot about the confirmation hearing.

Compare to Michael Mann’s The Insider, which is pretty dry source material, but very compelling drama.

Posted by HueyLongJr
Mamou
Member since Oct 2007
541 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Your deeply flawed comment is pretty laughable too, so…


The Oscars are a joke. How many Oscars did Vertigo win, Gavin?
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
2560 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:44 pm to
2024 Oscars

BEST PICTURE
American Fiction
Anatomy of a Fall
Barbie
The Holdovers
Killers of the Flower Moon
Maestro
Oppenheimer
Past Lives
Poor Things
The Zone of Interest

BEST DIRECTOR
Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest
Yorgos Lanthimos, Poor Things
Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer
Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon
Justine Triet, Anatomy of a Fall

BEST ACTOR
Bradley Cooper, Maestro
Colman Domingo, Rustin
Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
Cillian Murphy, Oppenheimer
Jeffrey Wright, American Fiction

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Sterling K. Brown, American Fiction
Robert De Niro, Killers of the Flower Moon
Robert Downey Jr., Oppenheimer
Ryan Gosling, Barbie
Mark Ruffalo, Poor Things

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
El Conde
Killers of the Flower Moon
Maestro
Oppenheimer
Poor Things

BEST EDITING
Anatomy of a Fall
The Holdovers
Killers of the Flower Moon
Oppenheimer
Poor Things

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
American Fiction
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
Killers of the Flower Moon
Oppenheimer
Poor Things
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21340 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

I disagree in that though. The drama is in the writing and acting of the event, not how important the outcome of the event is. For me, a good writer/actor/director could make the cooking of a grilled cheese sandwich high drama.


Agreed. But I’m also someone who loves American history, politics, and the history of American politics

So I loved all the confirmation hearing drama. Nolan made it magnificent.
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