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Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:47 am to skrayper
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80s Era Monica Rambeau:
Adult Monica (Photon) will be played by Teyonah Paris and will be a primary character in WandaVision. (she sports SWORD paraphernalia in the set photos)
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/20/20 at 12:46 pm to AURaptor
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There are countless videos about this on YouTube which explain in great detail. The comic book character has never been very well received, and Brie Larson only made things worse
Danvers was a well liked character in the 00s Bendis Avengers run.
She was buried by Claremont to prop up another character.
Larson is meh, but the character was considered cool. In the ‘10s however, when she adopted “Captain over Ms.” is probably the inflection point of SJW woke Marvel, which will fail just like DC is failing.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:30 pm to skrayper
I'm well aware of Monica Rambeau. Hell, she's in the movie. Again, Marvel needs to keep using the Captain Marvel name or they lose the trademark, and they aren't going to do something that stupid. So they've kept some minor characters to use the name every once in awhile to keep the name alive.
But he was complaining that the MCU didn't include a character that's been dead since 1982 and wasn't THAT popular of a character in the 70s anyway. It's ridiculous to think that Marvel wouldn't adapt Carol Danvers, one of their more visible characters, rather than a dusty character from days long gone by. They aren't gonna make ROM either. Complaining about Carol Danvers would be like complaining Batman uses the Dark Knight version inspired by Frank Miller in the 80s. The industry moved on and this is the version of the character now (though I do like the old Adam West goofiness).
No one was demanding or expecting for a Mar-Vell movie.
But he was complaining that the MCU didn't include a character that's been dead since 1982 and wasn't THAT popular of a character in the 70s anyway. It's ridiculous to think that Marvel wouldn't adapt Carol Danvers, one of their more visible characters, rather than a dusty character from days long gone by. They aren't gonna make ROM either. Complaining about Carol Danvers would be like complaining Batman uses the Dark Knight version inspired by Frank Miller in the 80s. The industry moved on and this is the version of the character now (though I do like the old Adam West goofiness).
No one was demanding or expecting for a Mar-Vell movie.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:38 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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She was buried by Claremont to prop up another character.
OK, this is the total opposite of what happened. Claremont took Carol Danvers off the board essentially because of her character assasination by Jim Shooter in Avengers #200, leading to the famous article, "The Rape of Ms. MArvel." It's still online here: (LINK
Claremont clearly read the article and agreed with its central thesis, which is why he had Danvers show up in X-Men and had her tell off the Avengers, making it clear it was rape. Then, since Claremont didn't trust anyone else, he had Rogue essentially kill her so no one could do further damage to the character. A few years later, he brought Danvers back as Binary, a ridiculously powered cosmic level hero.
The only reason Danvers was available to become Ms. Marvel again and then Captain Marvel is because of the yeoman's work Claremont put into rehabilitating her character from arguably the worst storyline in comics history. He didn't use Danvers to pop up Rogue, he used Rogue to save Danvers from further damage and try to set her character back to zero without the past baggage. It's one of the best rewrites in comics history, but Claremont is one of the best.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:50 pm to RollTide1987
Can we all agree that Brie Larson is NO female Tom Cruise with regards to doing her own stunt work? And the way her eyes lit up with overt indignation at the mere suggestion is all anyone needs to see this woman has a head full of snakes.
Brie is entirely unlikeable. That's why Captain Marvel failed.
Had someone like Katee Sackhoff been cast for the role, the reaction by fans would have been far more supportive.
Brie is entirely unlikeable. That's why Captain Marvel failed.
Had someone like Katee Sackhoff been cast for the role, the reaction by fans would have been far more supportive.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:13 pm to Baloo
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Claremont clearly read the article and agreed with its central thesis, which is why he had Danvers show up in X-Men and had her tell off the Avengers, making it clear it was rape. Then, since Claremont didn't trust anyone else, he had Rogue essentially kill her so no one could do further damage to the character. A few years later, he brought Danvers back as Binary, a ridiculously powered cosmic level hero.
Im aware of the rape, but when you kill a character, that’s a burial.
Who benefited most from Danvers burial? Rogue.
Push Rogue, with Danvers powers, to prominence.
Yes he brought her back, he had a lot of pull at the time, but he buried her first.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:36 pm to AURaptor
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That's why Captain Marvel failed.
Did it fail? I thought it had good numbers.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:38 pm to Baloo
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None of this is true.
So the 1st Capt Marvel wasnt a man?
Carol Danvers wasnt always called Ms Marvel?
The title of her movie is Captain Marvel, and his supposed origin story. That certifies it as woke
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In July 2012, Carol Danvers assumed the mantle of Captain Marvel in an ongoing series written by Kelly Sue DeConnick with art by Dexter Soy. Danvers dons a jumpsuit and explores her own past. When describing her DeConnick said it could be "pretty much be summed up with 'Carol Danvers as Chuck Yeager.'"
She didnt become Capt Marvel until 4 years after the MCU Started. Which had stuck pretty close to the origin stories of Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Black Panther, Spiderman, Ant Man, Wasp, Dr Strange
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:44 pm to rockiee
Sight unseen, set up directly before Avengers: End Game, perhaps the most cherry spot a movie has or ever will have, yes. It did pretty good numbers. It didn't flop.
Pissed a bunch of fans off though, and needlessly retconned a cool back story with Nick Fury and his eye, but hey, it did pretty good numbers.
Moving forward, however, will be a different story.
Pissed a bunch of fans off though, and needlessly retconned a cool back story with Nick Fury and his eye, but hey, it did pretty good numbers.
Moving forward, however, will be a different story.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:49 pm to AURaptor
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It did pretty good numbers. It didn't flop.
And thats all they care about at the end of the day
I never saw it so can't really comment on if it was actually good but I remember there were ton of arguments on here about if it would fail or not
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:28 pm to AURaptor
Had a great box office run, but did nothing in terms of merch and marketing tie ins. Man of Steel had a less than stellar box office take but was extremely profitable with marketing tie ins. Same with BvS.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:49 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Had a great box office run, but did nothing in terms of merch and marketing tie ins. Man of Steel had a less than stellar box office take but was extremely profitable with marketing tie ins. Same with BvS.
Where would one find these numbers, if one were so inclined?
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:29 pm to rockiee
I didn't see it either, but followed talk of it.
Ask Disney how they feel about Star Wars moving forward. Merch isn't selling, Galaxy's End is a bomb at the theme parks ( even before the beer bug ) and Solo lost money.
I would say End Game was decent, but let some fans down with subverted expectations. Lebowski Thor was terrible, imo.
Simply put, the fans they've pissed off with the woke agenda plans for the upcoming movies will far outnumber the new crop of folks to which they're trying to cater. The SJW crowds don't buy the merch, don't collect the comics, and all the other spin offs that go w/ the franchise. They'll # on social media all day long, but those clicks, likes and follows won't result in cash in the tills or movie tickets bought. And Disney knows it.
Ask Disney how they feel about Star Wars moving forward. Merch isn't selling, Galaxy's End is a bomb at the theme parks ( even before the beer bug ) and Solo lost money.
I would say End Game was decent, but let some fans down with subverted expectations. Lebowski Thor was terrible, imo.
Simply put, the fans they've pissed off with the woke agenda plans for the upcoming movies will far outnumber the new crop of folks to which they're trying to cater. The SJW crowds don't buy the merch, don't collect the comics, and all the other spin offs that go w/ the franchise. They'll # on social media all day long, but those clicks, likes and follows won't result in cash in the tills or movie tickets bought. And Disney knows it.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 6:19 pm to TheeRealCarolina
For box office rev and direct film rev, Forbes will put out a yearly list.
As for merch, it’s harder to find the data, but just ask yourself this: when was the last time you saw anyone wearing or with Captain Marvel merch? Do you see it at Target/Walmart? What about department stores like Kohl’s and Belk? It came and went like a fart in the wind.
As for merch, it’s harder to find the data, but just ask yourself this: when was the last time you saw anyone wearing or with Captain Marvel merch? Do you see it at Target/Walmart? What about department stores like Kohl’s and Belk? It came and went like a fart in the wind.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:29 am to dawgfan24348
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dawgfan24348
your takes are the worst
Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:04 am to Midget Death Squad
He is so upset at someone else’s definition of woke
Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:51 am to Dam Guide
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Sony’s spiderverse isn’t going to be part of the MCU,
IP rights about a subject I have little knowledge of are totally confusing, but this was my understanding. Not knowing anything about the character of Jessica Drew, but I remember reading that she's more Marvel than Sony. It seemed counterintuitive, which is why I remembered it.
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