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Okay....I have to admit my all time favorite movie has a serious plot hole...
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:13 pm
How the frick does Indy survive his trip on top of the U Boat all the way to the Nazi secret base?
I remember a comic book trying to cover this with him lashing himself to the periscope with his whip...but c’mon man....
I remember a comic book trying to cover this with him lashing himself to the periscope with his whip...but c’mon man....
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:37 pm to SquatchDawg
It took place inside of the Matrix, he was “the one” decades before Neo
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:51 pm to HoboDickCheese
Its Raiders, you don't question greatness.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:55 pm to Cleathecat
I’m drunk because I’m off the next few days, I question everything
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:38 am to SquatchDawg
You could open u boat hatches from the outside as well as the inside, and he snuck in before they submerged
or something.
or something.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 5:53 am to SquatchDawg
The bigger plot hole is that Indy really isn't that important to the story. If he never got involved, the same thing would have happened.
Thanks for ruining the movie Big Bang Theory.
Thanks for ruining the movie Big Bang Theory.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:34 am to PJinAtl
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The bigger plot hole is that Indy really isn't that important to the story. If he never got involved, the same thing would have happened.
It's been a minute since I've seen it so I don't have all the details committed to memory but isn't one of the biggest parts of finding the arc knowing where to dig? And if it wasn't for indy they wouldn't have known when/where/how to use the medallion thing to point them to a location?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:47 am to SquatchDawg
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How the frick does Indy survive his trip on top of the U Boat all the way to the Nazi secret base?
Frankly, it was more of an error to show the submarine diving - WWII era submarines cruised on the surface and only submerged when faced with surface combat vessels. And if they did submerge just below the surface for security and cruised that way, they couldn't go lower than snorkel depth for the diesel engines.
Diesel engines had to breathe and they could only operate for short periods and at low power on batteries below snorkel depth. (ETA: And German subs didn't get snorkels until the late war period as it is.)
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 6:57 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:29 am to WG_Dawg
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It's been a minute since I've seen it so I don't have all the details committed to memory but isn't one of the biggest parts of finding the arc knowing where to dig? And if it wasn't for indy they wouldn't have known when/where/how to use the medallion thing to point them to a location?
Indy took the medalian at Marion's bar. Without him, the nazis would have the medalion and have the correct location.
The only difference with and without dr jones is that marion would be dead.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:15 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Remember, this film is set in 1936 - Germany was not at war at the time, so there would be no need to submerge unless they wanted to avoid being sighted.
Frankly, it was more of an error to show the submarine diving - WWII era submarines cruised on the surface and only submerged when faced with surface combat vessels
For me, the bigger plot hole would be not how he survived, but how he avoided detection during the trip - especially once they arrived at the base, where it would have been almost impossible for him to sneak off the sub unobserved.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:21 am to FearlessFreep
Better yet, do all markets cover up a truck they know nothing about and make it a fruit stand to avoid detection from the Nazis?
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:43 am to PJinAtl
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The bigger plot hole is that Indy really isn't that important to the story. If he never got involved, the same thing would have happened.
Thanks for ruining the movie Big Bang Theory.
was coming to post this.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:45 am to PJinAtl
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The bigger plot hole is that Indy really isn't that important to the story. If he never got involved, the same thing would have happened.
The U.S. Government would have gotten hold of the Ark? The whole point of Indiana Jones going on this little quest was so that he could get his hands on the Ark before the Germans did.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:46 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:04 am to RollTide1987
quote:Maybe yes, maybe no.
The U.S. Government would have gotten hold of the Ark? The whole point of Indiana Jones going on this little quest was so that he could get his hands on the Ark before the Germans did.
The whole point of the quest was getting the Ark before the Germans do, but that doesn't happen.
Knowing what we know about Belloq, he isn't going to take a dud of a find to Berlin.
Without Indy, Marion is killed by Toht and he takes the medallion. With the medallion, Belloq knows where to dig and finds the Ark. Before taking it to Berlin, Belloq opens the Ark and he and all of the Germans with him are killed and the Ark is "abandoned" where it was opened. Does the US figure this out and go get it, or does it stay there until discovered later, if at all? We really don't know.
But, all in all, the only two things Indy accomplishes in the movie is saving Marion's life and making sure the US Gov gets the Ark.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:21 am to PJinAtl
The original plan was to fly it out. Surely that had some impact on the ending.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:40 pm to meansonny
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Indy took the medalian at Marion's bar. Without him, the nazis would have the medalion and have the correct location.
What I'm saying is would they have known how to use the medallion correctly? When indy finally makes it down into that map room thing he has to blow all tbe dust off it, meaning nobody has been in there for a while. Did the nazis know where the map room was? Ans even if they did, would they have known exactly how to use the medallion at the precise right time to pinpoint the right location?
The nazis having the medallion itself is irrelevant without knowing how to use it
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:53 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Yes. They were correct on the one side they had. They just didn't have the back side.
What I'm saying is would they have known how to use the medallion correctly?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:08 pm to SquatchDawg
I would like to know how he single-handedly knocked over the 40 ft statue to make a hole in the snake chamber interior wall, then pushed a two ton brick out from the exterior wall to escape.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:38 pm to PJinAtl
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the only two things Indy accomplishes in the movie is saving Marion's life and making sure the US Gov gets the Ark.
Those are pretty significant, though. Indys goal seemed to be more to save Marion than recover the ark from the nazis.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:50 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Those are pretty significant, though. Indys goal seemed to be more to save Marion than recover the ark from the nazis.
Folks focused on the Nazi angle miss the story - the Nazis and the Ark are an excuse to get Indy and Marion back together. The rest is just window dressing.
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