re: Official X-Men: First Class thread

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but havok, banshe, moira, angel, everyone in the hellfire not named shaw, etc were worthless. they should have had fewer characters, at least in pivotal scenes. i think a smaller approach, character-wise, would have been better in the end

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I think the point of them for the most part was to show Charles gift for teaching mutants to control their powers. This is a problem I had with the original series is that we never saw Professor X really training the students to use their powers and to feel better about themselves. We're just told he does this, which isn't a good thing.

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I think the point of them for the most part was to show Charles gift for teaching mutants to control their powers. This is a problem I had with the original series is that we never saw Professor X really training the students to use their powers and to feel better about themselves. We're just told he does this, which isn't a good thing.

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well he had his TAs like cyclops/jean grey to do the heavy lifting, which was shown

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well he had his TAs like cyclops/jean grey to do the heavy lifting, which was shown

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Aside from the start of X3 (and the scene was pretty pointless and was just used to show a Sentinel), I don't think I remember a scene where they really train the kids how to use their powers. Its just told that they help train them.

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that was part of the failure of the original series

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I think at that time, people were so excited about finally having an X-Men movie that they were willing to forgive shite like that. And probably wanted to see the core characters moreso than the fringe ones. By core I mean the ones from the 90s comics and cartoons because that's what the masses were familiar with.

But now people want to see good stories and that's tougher to do when you have to use shitty characters prominently.

ETA: I also wanted to say that after watching First Class yesterday morning and then catching orginal series on FX yesterday, the original series doesn't really hold up very well.

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her inclusion in the movies still makes no sense, other than for this

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Well, that, and she's one of the most central characters. She also, of the X-Men, has the most obviously alienating power. She's the perfect character to use in the introduction, except perhaps Jean Grey -- who you need older if you ever plan to do Phoenix.

I'm not sure why you're hating on Rogue, or even Anna Paquin's portrayal of her, which I thought was pretty good.

And if you couldn't see the parrallel to homosexuality in that a change took place in you when you hit adolesence that alienated you from your peers for being diffrent... I can't really help you. Maybe they should have held up a sign.

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And if you couldn't see the parrallel to homosexuality in that a change took place in you when you hit adolesence that alienated you from your peers for being diffrent... I can't really help you. Maybe they should have held up a sign.

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Or maybe you just have gay tendencies and saw what you wanted to see.



I loved the movie. Ranks right up there with the best super hero movies.

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I'm not sure why you're hating on Rogue

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it was her inclusion

her origin was much, much better in the comics

it takes away a lot of what makes her character so dynamic to make her the typical runaway

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her origin was much, much better in the comics

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She had the same origin in the comics as she did in the film. She was a runaway. The only difference is that she ran to the Brotherhood instead of the X-Men.

I like that the deleted the whole absorption of Ms. Marvel's powers and personality after killing her.

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so, should i watch this movie or not?

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Definite yes

eta: I thought about going see it again today. I haven't been to the movies in about 3 years or so, but I went see this one yesterday morning. I still may go see it again making it the only movie I've seen twice in the theater.