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re: Official WandaVision Season 1 Finale thread

Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Olsen looks so damn fine in that costume.


The costume looks like a mix of her Earth 616 and Earth 1610 (Ultimate Marvel) costumes. Glad they're not adopting her Ultimate Marvel qualities (she and Pietro have a Jamie and Cersei Lannister relationship in Ultimate)
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:02 pm to
So...real Vision’s just...out there now, right? Like with all his memories (pre first death) and everything?

Feel like that’s an understated consequence of that finale. I mean, he has no mind stone, but he’s still made of vibranium and has some phasing and laser powers.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:15 pm to
Waited until the season was over to comment.

Frankly you could watch the last 3-4 episodes of the season and still get the entire story in a nutshell and not miss anything in the first half of the season.

I immediately knew what the darkhold was because it was a major focal point of season 3 of Agents of SHIELD and caused so much chaos and trouble for Coulson and his team. When Agnes said darkhold, I was like damn that's really bad news. That's the devil's book and no one has any business reading it.

With that said, I was kind of hoping they would stick with making Wanda the villain, it would a be a novel approach and making multiverse of madness more interesting. A missed opportunity there.

But if they still kept her as a hero, then this was a good finale and watching Wanda come to terms with letting her husband and two sons fade away was tough to watch.

Overall, a solid offering from the MCU with WandaVision.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:21 pm to
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I was kind of hoping they would stick with making Wanda the villain


They stuck with making her SELFISH and RECKLESS without regard for how her "therapy session" affected everyone around her.

This is a recurring theme with her:

Age of Ultron - She allows herself to be manipulated by Strucker and Ultron, unleashing the Hulk and causing countless damage across Johannesberg

Civil War - In her haste to protect Captain America from Rumlow's suicide vest in Lagos, she causes the deaths of multiple individuals in the Wakandan embassy and a major international incident

Infinity War - In her insistence on staying by Vision's side during Shuri's procedure, she enables key gaps in security when instead she could have decimated any gaps in security early on

Endgame - In her desire to make Thanos suffer instead of finishing him quickly and painfully she allowed him an out, eventually resulting in Tony's death

WandaVision made her far more dangerous because now she is using a more measured and logical approach as evidenced by her distracting Agatha while placing runes all over the hex.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:21 pm to
Pretty good finale for an excellent series.

I’m still confused about Evan Peters inclusion if he ended up just being a random dude.

Was also really hoping to see Dr strange in this but oh well.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by hth52
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
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So...real Vision’s just...out there now, right? Like with all his memories (pre first death) and everything?


Seems he has the memories but lacks the emotional connections to them.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
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I’m still confused about Evan Peters inclusion if he ended up just being a random dude.


It was designed to be a misdirect meta nod. Like a fun Easter Egg.

Feige is never going to just throw people in, in particular a universe that was incredibly convoluted.

Mutants are coming, just like The Avengers, sprinkled in the MCU before the official true X-Men film.

Illuminerdi, nerd site, is reporting there is a Disney+ project titled “ The Mutants” in development at Marvel Studios.

Personally I’m hoping for a Wolverine Hulk movie
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Frankly you could watch the last 3-4 episodes of the season and still get the entire story in a nutshell and not miss anything in the first half of the season.


Not trying to pick a fight but there is an entertainment value. Watching a show that is only reduced to the mere facts is not entertainment. It's more like a briefing.

Part of the fun was enjoying the nostalgia and trying to figure out the mystery.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Seems he has the memories but lacks the emotional connections to them.



Pretty much the storyline from the comics. I can’t wait for the follow up for The Vision. Where does he go? I’d think to Banner, Suri, Fury, Rhodes/Stark Industries, or to find Wanda.

With no Stark, Natasha or Rogers to turn to, a question I’ve posed before since Endgame, who exactly are The Avengers are now. Do Barton, Rhodes, and Banner help run the organization?

Its a shame T’Challa is gone. The MCU is lacking leadership right now.
Posted by DykonIcon
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:46 pm to
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The MCU is lacking leadership right now.


Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:57 pm to
Looks like Rambeau will play a big part
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:12 pm to
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The MCU is lacking leadership right now.


May be a theme going forward. Not just the leadership necessarily, but replacing what they lost. It was big in Spiderman Far From Home. Mysterio was trying to fake his way into being the guy. Peter felt pressure to be the guy. They say “Next Iron Man” and people had issues with that phrasing, but thats exactly what it is for us and for them. Iron Man was like the face of the Avengers there and irl. He was they guy they could always look at because he was so public.

And this is gonna be pretty big in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, because what are we doing? Trying to move past Captain America. Government creates US Agent. Zemo continues to try to tear Superheroes down while they are at a low point.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
So where exactly is Agatha being held?

Wanda made it sound like she was keeping her in the hex, but the hex is gone.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:02 pm to
I assume she’s living in that ghost town that was Westview before and after the hex. Just wandering around gawking at nothing thinking it’s picturesque small town America.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:15 pm to
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Dr. Strange is gonna be such an a-hole to her when he sees her for the first time. His arrogant personality interacting with her will be worth the price or admission alone to Multiverse of Madness. Being a dick to other Avengers is what he does


Here's the thing...

Strange was on the same battlefield as Wanda during Endgame. Surely he would have sensed her power.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:29 pm to
There is a way that Wanda and Pietro can still be Magneto's children.

Picture this:

The same evening that Magda is in a hospital in Sokovia giving birth to her twins the Maximoffs are also giving birth to their child, who is stillborn.

Magda dies in childbirth and Agatha, sensing Wanda's magical power, attempts to take her. THE ANCIENT ONE intervenes and banishes Agatha with a similar spell to what Odin used to banish Hela, a spell that is only broken upon her death. Wanting Wanda to grow up with a family and noticing that the twins were alone, she modifies the memories of the Maximoffs to believe that Wanda and Pietro are their children.

Fast forward to post-Civil War: The Ancient One's death releases Agatha from her banishment.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:48 pm to
One thing I thought that was lacking was any mention of Wanda’s relationship with Steve and Nat. She was obviously closest with those two and Vision along with Sam.

I thought it would’ve been nice to kind of elaborate on that more than the 30 seconds in Endgame, but I understand they wanted to primarily focus on Vision. It’s just that she lost the three people she was closest too and it barely gets glossed over
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 5:49 pm to
Whoever said weeks ago the X-men cameo was just a bs Easter egg & also said this is gonna lead into Captain Marvel 2.

I’m sorry I called you an idiot and wished that you’d step on a lego while spilling your coffee on your shirt.

My bad.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 6:03 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 6:01 pm to
Low key looks like Magneto’s get up in Apocalypse.
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 6:03 pm to
Having marinated on this for a bit. As mentioned, the ending was lackluster for certain. I thought the first 8 episodes were pretty damn good, only to fall flat here in the finale. Overall, pretty impressed with the whole series, too bad they didnt stick the landing.

The first 8 episodes, it was like they were building a uncommon bridge with fancy, intricate bricks. Each character, story was interwoven, layered, interesting, some mystery, and each "brick" was dependent on every one prior, exactly what you would want in a limited series. But then at the last 10 feet, they just smacked down a couple pieces of 3/4" plywood and finished the bridge. Sure, it got us there, but....eh

-They really missed an opportunity with Agness. Her only motivation was "I sense some power, I want that power" OK? How unoriginal, couldnt there be just a little something more there?

-What was the point of the rabbit?

-ETA: Who the frick was in WitSec? Seemed like that could have been important

-The Pietro thing was.....lame. They did the least amount of work possible to wrap that up. Missed opportunity to tie in an alternate universe. They could have just as easily had him sent back to where he came from, and STILL closed the book on that series for good.

-Rambeau stops a few bullets, and....that's it, thanks for playing

-Darcy? vanished like a fart in the wind. Thanks for having a key role in the series, and at the very end, you wrecked an ice cream truck, never to be seen again.

-How did Albino Vision initially pass thru into the hex?

-How is Albino Vision able to fly, and phase thru stuff? He doesnt have an infinity stone, he's just a android, with a mini arc reactor thing in his forehead.


They did such a good job of creating this world for 8 weeks, only to do the absolute bare minimum to wrap up 80% of the characters' story and roll credits.

This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 6:38 pm
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