re: Official WandaVision Episode 5 Thread NO SPOILERS PAGE 1

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Yeah I think Agnes is having too much fun with this and is toying with them.

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She murdered that dog on purpose.

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Not Fox quicksilver. He'll turn out to be a villain

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Then why Evan Peters at all? That type of nod just pisses off the fans if he's a one off. Doesn't make sense.

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So is X-men coming into MCU?

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The Mouse bought fox, so marvel has the xmen rights back. They want to reboot basically everything fox but deadpool.

We dont know yet if this is just a one off for now or something bigger with the multiverse.

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So is X-men coming into MCU?

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The Mouse bought fox, so marvel has the xmen rights back. They want to reboot basically everything fox but deadpool.

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Yep

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We dont know yet if this is just a one off for now or something bigger with the multiverse.

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Well, it's been said many times that Wandavision leads directly into Dr Strange 2: Multiverse of Madness, so we know THIS SHOW is going with the multiverse.

For them to use Fox X-Men Quicksilver as a 'replacement' for the MCU Quicksilver... it absolutely seems to mean something.

Further 'real world' considerations- people might bitch about the current X-Men movies, but everyone has loved Fassbender and McAvoy as Magneto and Charles Xavier.

Those actors are far more likely to potentially sign on for new long-term runs, just due to age, than Stewart and McKellan (either of those guys might pass away to old age, and I suspect Marvel might be hesitant, especially after already losing a core Avenger actor to death. And watching the Star Wars project have to reimagine everything due to losing Fisher in the same way).

The "problem" with Fassbender and McAvoy has been that they're "from the past", but if you yank them into a different reality, that's no longer an issue.

This really sets up a near-perfect crossover. Quicksilver is MCU Wanda's brother, and X-Men Magneto's son. Her 'abducting' X-Men Quicksilver could possibly pull Magneto over, and would definitely alert Prof X that something is up, causing them to get involved/cross over too.

Here's another question that I don't think anyone's answering...
WHAT are the kids?

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Fassbender was an awesome Magneto

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Hell yeah he was. If he shows up with his Frankenstein's Monster them, I'll nerdgasm everywhere.

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The "problem" with Fassbender and McAvoy has been that they're "from the past", but if you yank them into a different reality, that's no longer an issue.

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My friend and I were talking about this but in the current x-men run the age of the quicksilver she pulled in would align more with fassenbender or McAvoy as opposed to Stewart or Gandalf

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You can do that?” was a big line imo

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It is, and especially so if she’s either familiar with or works for Mephisto.

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I don't think Mephisto is involved in THIS. I do think Agnes and Dottie are, almost certain Agnes is Agatha Harkness as has been speculated.

I also think that Agnes is helping Wanda, but that Wanda has the more power and control. Agnes is more of an assistant... and is maybe helping set up meetings.

Remember, Agnes was the person who arranged for Wanda to meet Dottie. Not sure who Dottie is, but the focus of that episode was "for the children". And once Dottie was satisfied/pleased, the twins came.

So if that makes Agnes AH, who did she line up for Wanda to meet, and "make babies"? Does Mephisto have an underling, maybe?

I could see the events of the series catching Mephisto's attention, and drawing him into the next phase (thus bringing Ghost Rider too). But it seems a bit quick to toss that tier of a villain into the mix. We're probably seeing the Multiverse being merged now; the fallout will come further down the road.

The loki trailer has a clear mephisto stain glass window. There are many many devil references in wandavision, so he is definitely around. I agree he could easily just be in the background pulling the strings and not show up for a year or two - like thanos.

He was better cast than the Marvel Quicksilver. I wish he would get into the MCU.

Two things I thought were odd not to see.

1) when the agents are meeting they ask if Wanda had any alias. Perfect set up for "none, but in Lagos they call her the Scarlet Witch " from the cut out scene from Civil War.

2) when saying who her parents were, I right would have been the best time to name drop Erik Leinster.(her and Quicksilvers actual father)

The ending was great though.

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Are you serious? I mean come on. I'd argue that from a character study and development standpoint, it was the second best MCU film behind Endgame. In both movies, the characters had to come to terms with who they were, what they had done, and evolve into better forms of themselves.

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Yes I like the character development, but it’s stuck in a terrible movie, which is too bad. Nebula-Gamora work great. Quill and Dad do not at all though. They make Drax into solely a punch line rather than a character. The movie is far far too cartoonish, it’s like a bad parody of the first movie. The jokes fall flat and are unnecessarily gross. They don’t work. Again they tried to top the humor and feel of the first one, and it comes off like a bad parody. A little restraint would have gone a long way. I’d rather rewatch Dark World (not that I have).