re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)

OP updated. We're already starting S4 this week.

I hope to post my thoughts on the current episodes some time today.

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colvin got seriously railroaded, but he deserves it. he was really arrogant with his "i got my 30" speeches and he couldn't see the forest for the trees. no matter what his intentions are, he works in a bureaucracy and there are people above and (most importantly) below him. you can't just go rogue AND make your subordinates do illegal shite and expect to sneak off in the middle of the night

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That's a good point, but still some cold blooded shite to frick up his job at Hopkins basically out of spite.

Random comments for the last three episodes of S3.


"There's games beyond the fricking game." String to Avon.
That's some deep shite right there, and only furthers the point that B&B both see things so differently nowadays.

String calling the Western. Oh shite.

Pearlman pulling a Basic Instinct on Judge Phelan. And Daniels sitting right there and rolling his eyes. That was hilarious.

Ole Bunny leaving them high and dry.

Lester undercover is Smooth. As. frick.

"And I keeps on in the chamber, in case you pondering." Omar to Brother.
Love that scene with those two going back and forth in the alley.

So Levy tells String he's being played by Clay Davis. Damn. So Clay Muthafricking Davis was actually beasting on B&B after all. Dude has balls of steel for going after Stringer Bell for a quarter mill. shite.

I love how Jimmy always goes and drives to talk to Fitzhugh instead of just calling him.

It's hilarious how pissed off Stringer gets at all the new dudes.

And now he wants Slim to off Clay MFing Davis? Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiit, son. This is really where he starts getting all out of pocket and shite.

"Murder is murder. It ain't no thang. But you talking bout some assassination type shite." I fricking love Slim Charles.

"What I tell you about playing them away games?" Avon to String.
That's a great fricking quote.

Love how the cops had all this awesome tech sitting there in their possession and none of them knew anything about it. They could've had those cell numbers months ago, maybe even more.

Cutty selling on Avon hard, and in the end Avon busts out laughing that dude "only" needs $10K. And gives him 15 anyway.

String snitching on Avon. Interesting. And Brother Mouzone tells Avon about String lying about Omar and all that shite. Uh oh..

"He must've done something to you.."
"Nah. It's just business."
String and Bunny Colvin.
Damn, String.

I love the rooftop scene with B&B. And I forgot just how much you can see this shite coming. It's all over the place. I bet that was pretty awesome if you were watching the show back when it was airing. And it's cool how B&B are so different now that they even handle their own situations differently. Avon's plan is to get Stringer killed by Omar and Brother while String's plan is to get Avon busted by the police. White collar vs. blue collar. And it's been like that with B&B for a while now. Interesting.

"You still don't get it, do you? It ain't about money. Your boy gave you up." Omar to String.



Cutty making progress with the kids. Nice.

And then Cutty loses them all once Marlo has his package back on the streets.

Jimmy is mortified that they got Stringer busted on the wire and he never even knew. KILLS him. That sucks.

DRUNK BUNK!!!

Why couldn't Jimmy tell them that it was Stringer who gave the address for Avon? Why was that some big secret? Especially after he was dead..?? And we even see Bunny get pissed at the end at Jimmy for putting String's name on the form thing.

Rawls is hilarious with the Flight of the Valkyries bullshite.

"Not everything is politics." Burrell.
Get the frick out of here, Erv. We all know that's bullshite.

Daniels and Pearlman out in public now? Aww shite. Now everybody is gonna know she loves the BBC.

Bernard: "I can't wait to go to jail." Great line as one of the last ones of the season.



Awesome season, and for some reason I thought this whole B&B coming to a head thing peaked in S4. But nope, it's S3. Look forward to seeing Marlo take over now.

And Jake, you still have never explained what you mean by Marlo having a "cheat code." I think you're wrong about that, but I dno't know what you mean yet.

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i didn't think they did that. i thought the uni just didn't want a "renegade cop" on the payroll

i don't think the police sabotaged his job intentionally (or even knew about it)

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I haven't watched these episodes yet, but i thought he said they did call Hopkins and kill the job, but maybe you're right and the Hopkins people pulled the offer over the bad press, which would make sense.

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i don't think that's a plan. if he could buy stringer's freedom, then he would have (can't say the same for stringer, which is fricked up i admit). brother pointed out that his name would be tarnished in new york, and that meant more to avon than stringer (which is fricked up on its own)

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I think it was definitely the plan. Avon knew that Omar wanted String (well, B&B period, but regardless) dead. And Brother would as well. Avon set that up knowing there was no way String made it out alive. And I think he did it because he and Avon were just too different at this point and wanted different things. And because String was getting wildly out of touch and even going so far as to wanting to have a politician murdered. And also because he likely felt the heat that String was about to turn on him too.

So he made the decision to have String removed. And in his case, that was have him killed. In String's case, having Avon removed meant sending him to prison.

But IMO Avon 100% plotted to have Stringer Killed...that was the goal.

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protecting CIs = important. that's why colvin gets mad at him for "cutting corners" at the end (even though stringer was dead and it didn't matter ultimately, he was still a CI and should have been treated as such)

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I guess that makes sense. I guess he was giving Jimmy shite about it before he knew that String was dead. And CI anonymity is important, but I would think that Jimmy of all people would be dying to tell his coworkers in the unit that it was Stringer who gave the info on Avon.

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i just think they made him over-powered as a villain, when he was faced with actual conflict

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How so? Do you mean "cheat code" = Chris Partlow?

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but i thought he said they did call Hopkins and kill the job

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Burrell called Hopkins personally to frick over Bunny.. That was a dick move after busting him down to Lt as well. frick Burrell even though Hopkins would probably distance themselves eventually.


I don't think Avon plotted to kill String. Avon tried to buy Strings life in the barbershop but Brother wasn't having that. Avon didn't have a choice since he needed that NY Connect.

I was on String side because he just wanted them to make $$$$ now but Avon was still wanting to be the King. Yes he did realized at the end that String was right. They both did the things at the cost of doing business.

That rooftop scene was tough. You could tell they were like brothers. You could see it in Avons face when Brother didn't want the $$$.

I think Tony was mad cuz Carcetti didn't tell him what he was doing and they seemed like boys.

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carcetti makin moves. i still don't know why tony grey is so mad b/c he can't think carcetti can win (at that point at least).

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Tony realises Carcetti encouraged him to run to split the black vote

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he gave him up knowing what would happen.

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Yeah I agree Avon knew String was good as dead.

I think for Avon it wasn't necessarily the package, more in line of muscle and his name.

The deal with Prop Joe was all String, didnt think Avon wanted to partner up with them. But he should have listened to String long time ago.

Still amazes me how dumb string was trying to be a businessman.

Would you give Clay MFing Davis a briefcase full of cash? Shiiiiiiiiiiit

Marlo was acting like he killed stringer.

I think prop Joe had the ability to decipher between false information and the truth. they would have cut Avon off.Then again Maybe the co-op would have fought on that lie and helped get rid of Marlo


I believe McNulty obsession with his job is somehow tied to the fact that he dropped out of college