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re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The more i think about about it though, Ziggy is the dock version of DeAngelo.
go back a few pages
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ziggy is a whiteprivilege version of D from prior to season 1
spoiled, arrogant, and a braggart (at the worst times)
BOOM
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 6:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
How does Valchek have so much power.
He most likely wasn't a good cop back in the day. He was able to push Burrel around a little.
Because he is Polish? Good political connections?
He most likely wasn't a good cop back in the day. He was able to push Burrel around a little.
Because he is Polish? Good political connections?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:15 pm to Nodust
Episode 5
Ziggy is so pitiful…. Can’t even get $$ from White Mike lol… fricking up the package like it’s a game
Niko being an arse to Jimmy’s old lady…. Then he wants to know too much when talking to the Greeks about the chemicals.. Less you know the better
Detail back together… Carver seemed weak when meeting with Daniels…. Rawls always telling it like it is to Lester…
Stringer bringing his business to the class room and vice versa, love it… Meeting with Avon bout the package and talking Dee.. Avon telling String he has been fair to Dee.. String seems like that might have been the go ahead and do what you have to in regards to Dee
Omar is so fricking awesome… Bubz be scared as frick since O aint no random MF’r… Him and Jimmy shopping for a suit lmao
Episode 6
Omar and his tie… String calling him a ****, where are the SWJs…. Calling Levy out was my favorite line
Herc has no game, trying to get with Beadie
Dee being all philosophical with his mom, keeping it real… respect that he standing tall but don’t want anything to do with his family…
Guess that dude had to be prison big to hold Dee like that with the belt
Bunk and Jimmy getting drunk as usual and Bunk pulls out his gun lmao… Then the hangover in Daniels office
That was a nice father/son moment between Frank and Zig after Zig burned the $100… Niko won’t let Zig frick up the $$ and dope, can’t blame him
Jimmy Ex a straight MILF!!! Damn
Ziggy is so pitiful…. Can’t even get $$ from White Mike lol… fricking up the package like it’s a game
Niko being an arse to Jimmy’s old lady…. Then he wants to know too much when talking to the Greeks about the chemicals.. Less you know the better
Detail back together… Carver seemed weak when meeting with Daniels…. Rawls always telling it like it is to Lester…
Stringer bringing his business to the class room and vice versa, love it… Meeting with Avon bout the package and talking Dee.. Avon telling String he has been fair to Dee.. String seems like that might have been the go ahead and do what you have to in regards to Dee
Omar is so fricking awesome… Bubz be scared as frick since O aint no random MF’r… Him and Jimmy shopping for a suit lmao
Episode 6
Omar and his tie… String calling him a ****, where are the SWJs…. Calling Levy out was my favorite line
Herc has no game, trying to get with Beadie
Dee being all philosophical with his mom, keeping it real… respect that he standing tall but don’t want anything to do with his family…
Guess that dude had to be prison big to hold Dee like that with the belt
Bunk and Jimmy getting drunk as usual and Bunk pulls out his gun lmao… Then the hangover in Daniels office
That was a nice father/son moment between Frank and Zig after Zig burned the $100… Niko won’t let Zig frick up the $$ and dope, can’t blame him
Jimmy Ex a straight MILF!!! Damn
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:20 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
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String seems like that might have been the go ahead and do what you have to in regards to Dee
No, I think Stringer acted on his own volition.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:16 am to amiznit
OP updated.
I am still behind. Counting this week, I have the last six episodes to catch up on. Hopefully I can knock those out over the next few nights or so. I'm damn sure going to try.
I am still behind. Counting this week, I have the last six episodes to catch up on. Hopefully I can knock those out over the next few nights or so. I'm damn sure going to try.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:26 am to LUS Tiger in FL
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Jimmy Ex a straight MILF!!! Damn
She was the crazy widowed sister-in-law in Rescue Me, and the time period of the roles overlapped.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:50 am to CocomoLSU
Watching Backwash right now. Lester watching the cans move on the computer program and you just know he is going to figure out their system.
Bodie buying flowers was funny
Bodie buying flowers was funny
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:00 am to CocomoLSU
i'm finally at the place where i can start rewarching episodes. it's been almost a month since i paused to catch up
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm finally at the place where i can start rewarching episodes. it's been almost a month since i paused to catch up
I've been busy the last two weekends, which is usually when I watch the show. And it happens that I've had random shite during the week as well, so I got behind a little bit.
But I should be caught up this week though.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:38 am to CocomoLSU
i dont think that ziggy and D'eangelo are the same. He wants to be the man but he isn't.That something Dee never wanted. Ziggy also has an inferiority complex. His friends are really his dad friends and associates. he is completely inept and his cousin Nick is better than him at practically everything that matters.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:00 am to jamsmiley
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dont think that ziggy and D'eangelo are the same
Said this earlier, I dont see it.
Someone should tweet Supergirl this thread, lol
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:18 am to LUS Tiger in FL
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dont think that ziggy and D'eangelo are the same
Said this earlier, I dont see it.
You guys are taking it too literally. They are not identical, there are personality differences. But their situations are similar. Both are in "jobs" they are not suited to just because it is what their family always did. D's family was always in the game, Ziggy's family was always in the Union on the docks. both would have be better served by their families if they were steered to a life outside the family business. Both showed signs of intelligence that maybe they would have succeeded if they had furthered their education. Both also show signs of weakness that leads to their demise.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:19 am to jamsmiley
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i dont think that ziggy and D'eangelo are the same. He wants to be the man but he isn't.That something Dee never wanted. Ziggy also has an inferiority complex. His friends are really his dad friends and associates. he is completely inept and his cousin Nick is better than him at practically everything that matters.
I see the parallels, but it isn't perfect. The Barksdale organization doesn't have a lot of OGs - they're still young and staying below the radar. So, the career timeline is compressed. The parallel for the union is Frank -> Avon, and Horseface -> Stringer.
If anything, Nick is more like Dee - in that Frank knows he is more competent. He wants better for Ziggy, but he secretly knows that it isn't really in him. But they're all Sobotkas - so I don't know how to line that up with Barksdale. If anything, Ziggy is more like Wallace, with elements of Dee. Nick is like a notch between Dee and Stringer.
So, it isn't perfect. There are some commonalities between family, business, competence and role - but, whereas you can work on the docks for 30+ years, one cannot expect a career in the drug game much past 30 and there is a good chance a number of those years will be incarcerated.
The really close parallels between Ziggy and Dee come in that isolation, as you suggest. Ziggy is completely out of place, but doesn't know or understand anything else.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:26 am to Ace Midnight
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If anything, Nick is more like Dee - in that Frank knows he is more competent
I see Nick more like Bodie, he knows his shite, sees through the BS and is loyal to the end. He's not weak like D and does belong in the dock world. The only thing Nick/Dee have in common is because they are family the boss (Frank/Avon) thinks he can trust them. Dee does a good job running the pit but he is incompetent in other elements.
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. If anything, Ziggy is more like Wallace, with elements of Dee
I would argue Dee would be Wallace if he wasn't a Barksdale.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:30 am to H-Town Tiger
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I see Nick more like Bodie, he knows his shite, sees through the BS and is loyal to the end. He's not weak like D and does belong in the dock world.
That's fair enough - and Bodie is there, moving up, without the name. Nick would be, too, presumably. In fact, his dad turned his back on the thing, so he's overcome that.
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I would argue Dee would be Wallace if he wasn't a Barksdale.
Not sure about all of that, but it's true that neither are suited for the dirtier side of the drug trade.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:39 am to Ace Midnight
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Not sure about all of that, but it's true that neither are suited for the dirtier side of the drug trade.
both also are pretty smart. Wallace's mom is a drunk and an addict, he's left on his own. Dee otoh has a family structure, his mom raised him. Without that family structure he never would have lasted. As others said above, if he wasn't family Avon/Stringer probably would have had him taken out after he shot that guy in the Towers.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:40 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:45 am to H-Town Tiger
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As others said above, if he wasn't family Avon/Stringer probably would have had him taken out after he shot that guy in the Towers.
I said that, too. If Dee was a "Williams" and not a "Barksdale" he would have been killed over the tower shooting - just as a firewall. It was expensive and risky to rig the trial - in fact, that was the act that brought down the heat on them when it did.
Heck, they killed Wallace on suspicion of cooperation - after he was the one that delivered Brandon, quite a feat for kid that was barely above hopper at that point.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:31 am to Ace Midnight
they would not have killed dee they would have let him go to jail. Levy advised stringer and Avon to clean house
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:51 am to jamsmiley
Just found out that we are leaving at noon today due to the bad weather coming. So I should be able to catch up this afternoon (barring my power going out ).
).Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:26 am to Nodust
Episode 7
Yeah that shite was hilarious with the 221 and Projects. My boy kept it real. No need to drag a brother name down.
Poor New Charles leg was fricked up.
Prop Joe trying to make his move. Avon maybe should have listened with that weak product.
Lester getting Daniels to take the murders. Bunk was right, smell of wisdom
Bunk, just a humble MF'r with a big arse dick
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Bodie buying flowers was funny
Yeah that shite was hilarious with the 221 and Projects. My boy kept it real. No need to drag a brother name down.
Poor New Charles leg was fricked up.
Prop Joe trying to make his move. Avon maybe should have listened with that weak product.
Lester getting Daniels to take the murders. Bunk was right, smell of wisdom
Bunk, just a humble MF'r with a big arse dick
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:30 am
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