re: Official The Walking Dead S05E15 "Try" NO COMICS

Did Rick really think Deanna would go along with "Then I'll kill him?" That was a pretty poor gambit on Rick's part which made the fight look that much worse.

Having a doctor/surgeon around is pretty important. Has nobody thought about constructing some sort of jailhouse? Or is their entire justice system based around exile?

Pete is a total ahole POS, though. Remember the scene when Rick first met him (I think)? Pete sitting on his porch as Rick walked by. I think there was a reference to that scene last night (someone said something about Pete going out and sitting on his porch after KOing his wife). Was that just after the haircut?

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I haven't seen anyone discuss the significance of the red balloon...

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I wondered about that, so I googled red balloon symbolism last night and found this interesting tidbit, not referring to Walking Dead but just red balloons in general:

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The color red is usually seen in dream interpretation as either a warning sign, or a representation of passion or strong feelings. Balloons represent either childhood or your hopes, especially of love.

Interpretation 1: You have let go of some childish ways, you are growing up and quickly. The childish things you once held close, seem unimportant to what you've discovered recently.

Interpretation 2: You have decided to end a relationship that once made you hope for love. You worry that you have let go of your feelings too quickly.

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While watching it, I assumed the red balloon was just a symbol of the innocence in Alexandria, kind of like the illusion of normalcy seen in the cocktail party. Would've loved to have seen it pop at the end! (Or did it???)

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Did Rick really think Deanna would go along with "Then I'll kill him?" That was a pretty poor gambit on Rick's part which made the fight look that much worse.

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They changed Rick. No the Rick we have watched would not. Do not like what they are doing to him.

Very good info cocomo and dorothy, thanks...


So the symbolism didn't involve anything with TWD, just in general

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This is what I think the "Beware the Wolves" graffiti was referring to. I'm not convinced that the W's refer to wolves. To my knowledge, there's no reason to believe that, except that they start with the same letter.

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It would be one of the biggest misdirections in the existence of the show. They've always been some foreshadowing fools.

I'd estimate they number no more than 20 without Rick's group. If they were to exile Rick, I have a feeling that at least Carol, Daryl, Sasha, and Carl go with him. Maggie and Glenn would probably go with him at this point. Michonne realized last episode she is getting soft and didn't like it, so I think she'd go with Rick. Abraham, when push came to shove, would side with Rick and the group so that means Rosita and Eugene (the newly found badass, apparently) would, too. Hell, after A-a-ron saw what people outside the walls are capable of last night, he might agree with Rick right now. Basically, I think Rick's group would stick together and the Alexandria group would end up being slaughtered if they tried to exile and/or kill Rick.

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But re the exiles/wolves: who/whatever they may be, they are eating & dismembering dead zombies, after tying the last one to a tree.

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The way I see it is, someone (i.e., a person or persons) are doing this. I don't think the entity that tied the girl to the tree is the same entity that ate her guts. I think someone tied her up, and zombies did the feasting.

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can't see exiles doing this. That leaves who/what exactly? Would seem if it were actual wolves, they would not be leaving so much of the bodies intact. If it was a pack, nothing would be left.

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There are a few possibilities IMO: Morgan, exiles, or some other outside group. I don't think there are any wolves, other than the literal ones we've already seen. I could be completely wrong, though.

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I think it's more likely the W stands for walkers, and the "Beware the wolves" graffiti - which, to my knowledge, only made one split-second appearance in the show and hasn't been revisited since - was referring to exactly that - literal wolves.

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No chance. There was the "Beware the wolves" graffiti and then a pickup truck filled with dead bodies with no arms or legs. Those bodies all had a "W" on them. It seems pretty obvious they're trying to make this "Wolves" thing out to be the new bad guys.

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No chance. There was the "Beware the wolves" graffiti and then a pickup truck filled with dead bodies with no arms or legs. Those bodies all had a "W" on them. It seems pretty obvious they're trying to make this "Wolves" thing out to be the new bad guys.

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Yup. I thought it was obvious. They linked the two at Noah's community. It was the Wolves who attacked his neighborhood. They are the ones brutalizing people and leaving the W mark on their foreheads. Rick has been warning Deanna that the real threat is people now. People who size you up for what they can take from you. They have been setting us up for an outside attack on Alexandria since they got there.

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As a side bar, what happens to Pete now that his spousal abuse is out in the open?

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I thought it was weird that right after Pete hits Jessie in front of everyone, Rick does the same thing to Carl.

I agree that I don't like this new Rick. Someone mentioned it with his "Then I'll kill him" plan...surely he had to know that wouldn't fly with Deanna. Now, he may not care, but normal Rick would care about something like that. This Rick seems to be in a wrong state of mind, and is something we haven't seen from him before. I mean, he's practically throwing himself at Jessie (even before knowing her husband was an abusive drunk). That's definitely out of character for him, and I'm not a fan.