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re: Official Star Wars Episode 9 Discussion SPOILERS thread
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:59 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:59 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Cool, so still a connection to the dark side.
This isn't unique and it isn't the mic drop you think it is.
Welcome to Star Wars, champ.
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 10:59 am to RollTide1987
I know. People keep referencing a connection to one or another with Baby Yoda. You aren’t born into a side.
You develop over time. Unless you are Rey.
It is the entire idea behind training.
You develop over time. Unless you are Rey.
It is the entire idea behind training.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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This isn't unique and it isn't the mic drop you think it is.
Welcome to Star Wars, champ.
I don’t think you understand the point I’m responding to.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:01 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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I don’t think you understand the point I’m responding to.
Wrong.
I don't care about the point you're responding to.
I'm pointing out a few errors. Simple as that.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:02 am to JayDeerTay84
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know. People keep referencing a connection to one or another with Baby Yoda. You aren’t born into a side.
You develop over time. Unless you are Rey.
Bing Bango Bongo.
Put in the simplest way, Rey gains the abilities to do light and dark side force powers in this movie because they needed her to in order to proceed through the story.
Dark side abilities have always taken actions on the person to be able to do them. Palpatine even conveyed that to Anakin in RotS. He had to become stronger in the dark side in order to gain the abilities he wanted.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'm pointing out a few errors. Simple as that.
What error is that?
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
And the terrible thing is, they had Kylo follow this path correctly.
He was well thought out.
He was well thought out.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Sigh.
I already pointed them out.
You conceded one and ignored the other.
I already pointed them out.
You conceded one and ignored the other.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:05 am to TheeRealCarolina
Does this movie have the same overuse of unnecessary out of place forced super hero movie style comedy moments like the last Jedi had? The stupid humor they force into marvel movies was one of the worst parts of TLJ.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:07 am to RollTide1987
Haven’t read the entire thread, but I believe Lucas fooled everybody into thinking the story was about the skywalker family. It is pretty clear it is about the rise and and fall of the greatest force user in palpatine.
Even though he is the bad guy, he created anakin with the force and the entire skywalker line is due to him and his powers.
Rey, a true palpatine, was the only one ever truly capable of defeating him.
Even though he is the bad guy, he created anakin with the force and the entire skywalker line is due to him and his powers.
Rey, a true palpatine, was the only one ever truly capable of defeating him.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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already pointed them out.
You pointed out Luke was the son of Anakin. Who is also Vader. Unless you are trying to argue that the “he has too much Vader in him” isn’t something that is a part of Star Wars. Your point doesn’t point out an error in my comment because you don’t understand the point I’m making.
[quote]ignored the other.[/quote
Frankly because I don’t care about baby Yoda that much. At this point though, there is no reason the believe he has any connection to the dark side. Being contrarian doesn’t change that. As far as anyone knows at this point, his closest connection is to Yoda or the only other of his species we’ve seen, who was also a Jedi, and that’s all we know right now. That is still an assumption at best.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:08 am to The Boat
If TLJ ruined your childhood, you aren't going to like this one, either. There are two women kissing, Rose still has a somewhat prominent role, and Rey still fricks shite up.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:08 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Palpatine even conveyed that to Anakin in RotS. He had to become stronger in the dark side in order to gain the abilities he wanted.
And he even mentioned that Darth Plageuis was the only person in the history of the Force who managed to cheat death. Darth Sidious was even specific on the fact that he didn't know how to do it but, with their powers combined, they could work it out and re-discover the secret.
As far as we know, Vader and Sidious never went down that road after Padme's death. There was no point anymore. And yet Rey and Kylo Ren managed to re-discover the power that no one else had managed to because the script called for it.
If it really was as easy as 123 then Anakin's arc is completely invalidated.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:11 am to RollTide1987
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As far as we know, Vader and Sidious never went down that road after Padme's death. There was no point anymore. And yet Rey and Kylo Ren managed to discover the power that no one else had managed to because the script called for it.
Yep. Frankly, I think really what was portrayed was two different force abilities. It was just done poorly, or poorly portrayed is a better way to say it.
In all likelihood, Palpatine basically did Force Drain like in the Jedi Outcast games and Rey/Ben were using force heal. I’m the end, it was just a poor plot piece used to progress the story, just like the teleportation.
This post was edited on 12/22/19 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I hated The Last Jedi with a passion and I lived TROS. It felt like this movie was made to apologize for the dumb shite Rian Johnson did, especially with Luke. The women kissing is irrelevant. It's so miniscule and is barely even noticable. Rose was pushed to the side and it basically felt like JJ was saying "Yeah she's irrelevant" which she is.
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Official Star Wars Episode 9 Discussion SPOILERS thread by DisplacedBuckeye
If TLJ ruined your childhood, you aren't going to like this one, either.
quote:Had no problems with Rey being a hero or being the one to end things. My only big complaint was Ben dying.
Rey still fricks shite up.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:14 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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You pointed out Luke was the son of Anakin. Who is also Vader.
Sure, if you ignore everything that's ever happened in Star Wars.
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Frankly because I don’t care about baby Yoda that much.
That's one way to handle falling on your face.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:16 am to Henry Jones Jr
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It felt like this movie was made to apologize for the dumb shite Rian Johnson did
Only if that's what you need it to be.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:19 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sure, if you ignore everything that's ever happened in Star Wars.
Yea, you really are completely missing the point I was commenting on and keep proving it.
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That's one way to handle falling on your face.
Again, please explain the point I was commenting on first. You’ve yet to show any type of understanding of it. If you did, you’d understand why Yoda having a connection to the dark side or not is irrelevant, as is Luke’s connection.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:21 am to Henry Jones Jr
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It felt like this movie was made to apologize for the dumb shite Rian Johnson did
Which is why this movie sucks. I absolutely loathed the Last Jedi, but what was done was done. Instead of apologizing for what happened, JJ Abrams and co. should have accepted what happened in Episode XIII and moved the story forward.
Instead of doing that, they tried to retcon most of TLJ while, at the same time, attempting to move the story forward towards a conclusion that would make EVERYONE happy.
If Rise of Skywalker existed in a vacuum, this movie might have been a good one-off sequel to the OT. But it doesn't exist in a vacuum. It exists in a saga with eight other movies. And when you put them together, Rise of Skywalker completely invalidates the first six films of that saga.
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:21 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yea, you really are completely missing the point I was commenting on and keep proving it.
Where is the disconnect for you between missing the point and not caring about your point?
Your point is completely irrelevant to anything I've said.
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Again, please explain the point I was commenting on first.
Again, completely irrelevant.
You fricked up. Get over it.
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