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Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:25 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Nope, it's PG-13. No nudity, SC, or extreme violence. There are guns and bombs but the scenes are far from grotesque. Nothing you wouldn't see on the evening news... perhaps more mild than the evening news.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:29 am to tigerguy121
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The whole movie was Leo's dream, his wife, before jumping out the building was right, they never really left the dream.
I doubt this was the case. Assuming your theory is correct, from Dom's perspective, we have,
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4 (Mal and Dom's limbo, where they lived for 50 years).
The film showed a scene where they wake up on the floor of their apartment with a dream machine next to their heads. For your theory to work, this would have actually been entry into another level, because if they were to go back a level, they are no longer in limbo, and thus realize the dream.
Thus, from Dom's perspective, we have,
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4 (Mal and Dom's limbo)
Level 5 (Mal and Dom enter this level, thinking it is reality - This would be the level that Dom and the others operate in throughout most of the movie. Then, for Dom at least, when they enter Yusuf's dream, it would be level 6 for Dom. So we would have,
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4 (Mal and Dom's limbo)
They awaken, thinking they are in reality, when in fact they went another level deep.
Level 5 (Dom's perceived reality)
Level 6 (Yusuf's dream)
Level 7 (Arthur's dream)
Level 8 (Hospital)
Level 9 (Loops back around to level 4, as Dom finds himself back in Limbo, with his wife insisting that this world was "real")
Remember that Mal and Dom killed themselves while in limbo - meaning they woke up. You're theory would presume that killing themselves while already 3-4 levels deep would somehow take them a level deeper, like to level 5. The film makes no hint that killing yourself while in limbo would somehow take you a level deeper to a sub-limbo.
This post was edited on 7/17/10 at 1:33 am
Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:30 am to rbWarEagle
Thanks, looks like I'll be taking the grandparents, and possibly the kids
Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:32 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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and possibly the kids
I hope ur kids are old enough to understand it. Otherwise they might be a distraction which is the last thing you want in this movie.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:34 am to Babalugats
Just from skimming some of these reviews, it doesn't sound like I'm old enough to fully understand much of this movie
Posted on 7/17/10 at 2:18 am to UFownstSECsince1950
I've always been good at movies that are hard to understand, which means I have to see this. 
Posted on 7/17/10 at 3:28 am to Mastermind
I want to see it again.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 8:20 am to Dan In Real Life
Wow, what a let down. Not sure if to say terrible, or just not good. Did not like.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:27 am to AlxTgr
SPOILERS
Basic question here that, if left unanswered, ruins the whole film for me:
How long were Leo and his wife asleep in their 50 year old dreamworld? Using the 60:1 ratio, or whatever it was, they should have been in a nearly 1 year coma without food and water to sustain that kind of dream.
And I've come to the conclusion that the whole movie was Leo's dreamworld. Don't precisely know how that works, but Nolan really hints at it. Besides, that sort of covers up the shoddy, Michael Bay-esque plot he had made about a ragtag group of scholars and scientist running a heist on the head of a global energy monopoly. If it was all a clever little way for Leo to convince himself he could get back to his kids, I'm okay with all the crap we had to put up with to get there. Self-inception, after all, is a pretty bad arse idea.
Basic question here that, if left unanswered, ruins the whole film for me:
How long were Leo and his wife asleep in their 50 year old dreamworld? Using the 60:1 ratio, or whatever it was, they should have been in a nearly 1 year coma without food and water to sustain that kind of dream.
And I've come to the conclusion that the whole movie was Leo's dreamworld. Don't precisely know how that works, but Nolan really hints at it. Besides, that sort of covers up the shoddy, Michael Bay-esque plot he had made about a ragtag group of scholars and scientist running a heist on the head of a global energy monopoly. If it was all a clever little way for Leo to convince himself he could get back to his kids, I'm okay with all the crap we had to put up with to get there. Self-inception, after all, is a pretty bad arse idea.
This post was edited on 7/17/10 at 9:28 am
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:33 am to Santa Clause
I am of the impression that it was all Leo's dream. I need to see it again to hammer that home.
indeed it is
quote:
Self-inception, after all, is a pretty bad arse idea
indeed it is
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:36 am to Geauxldineye
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Inception Review - reelviews.net James Berardinelli is the best critic out there.
This review took the words right out of my mouth. I loved this line.
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It is smart, taut, and does not reward indolence. If you zone out or make a trip to the snack bar, it will lose you. All it asks of viewers is that they do something rare: engage the intellect.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:42 am to Geauxldineye
Now that I think about it, the movie itself seems like a bit of inception pulled on us by Chris Nolan. As evidenced by the ending, the movie goes through different levels of dream state, all the elaborate set pieces adding to the complexity of the story, only to see that slight wobble at the end. The clear moment of honest truth. The parallel between what happens on the screen and what happens in the viewers mind while piecing it all together is very similar to me.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:19 am to jrowla2
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no, hell no, the whole movie was not Leo's dream and thats not even up for debate
you can debate the end all you want but there was some reality before that, I guarantee
Clarify that at all?
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:23 am to Cs
quote:
I doubt this was the case. Assuming your theory is correct, from Dom's perspective, we have,
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4 (Mal and Dom's limbo, where they lived for 50 years).
The film showed a scene where they wake up on the floor of their apartment with a dream machine next to their heads. For your theory to work, this would have actually been entry into another level, because if they were to go back a level, they are no longer in limbo, and thus realize the dream.
You are going to many levels. There are no levels, it's all a dream. Leo is sitting somewhere hooked up to one machine. The entire world is just his mind creating things. How many levels only matter if you think he was awake at some point in the movie.
There are some glitches in the whole process that make me think it was all a dream.
For example in the snow level they all miss the kick of the van going off the bridge cause they aren't back on the level of the hotel yet, well Arthur is. Arthur not waking up from the hotel level from that initial kick is either a huge plot hole or just another sign it was all Leos dream.
This post was edited on 7/17/10 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:57 am to Santa Clause
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Besides, that sort of covers up the shoddy, Michael Bay-esque plot he had made about a ragtag group of scholars and scientist running a heist on the head of a global energy monopoly.
wat
Posted on 7/17/10 at 12:57 pm to Dead Mike
I just wish the top would have fallen.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 1:52 pm to hendersonshands
WOWWWWWWW what a movie. So glad I managed to avoid all the trailers except for the teaser. This movie was mind blowing. Can't wait to see it again. And I loved the ending. The last hour and a half is intense as hell.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 2:03 pm to Santa Clause
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And I've come to the conclusion that the whole movie was Leo's dreamworld
Wrong. He uses his totem multiple times throughout the first half of the film, and everyone gets to see it topple over each time (ie, in the hotel room after the failed extraction, after coming out of the dream with Ariadne in Paris, etc).
Posted on 7/17/10 at 2:06 pm to tigerguy121
No one was supposed to wake up from the initial kick. It was a warning. A way to keep track of time.
If Arthur woke up from that kick, he wouldn't have been able to drop the others to bring them to level 2.
And as said above, we see Dom spin his totem multiple times in the first half of the film, and watch it topple over.
If Arthur woke up from that kick, he wouldn't have been able to drop the others to bring them to level 2.
And as said above, we see Dom spin his totem multiple times in the first half of the film, and watch it topple over.
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