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re: Official Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II Reaction Thread

Posted on 7/15/11 at 9:44 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 9:44 am to
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The biggest and only real gripe from me was the lack of information on Dumbledore. I was really looking forward to that part.


One of my favorite parts from the book so I was upset about it not being in the movie.
Posted by PaddlingTiger
St. Louis, MO
Member since Jun 2010
1066 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 9:59 am to
100% agree. I loved it. It was without question the best in the series.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:05 am to
It was pretty a epic experience.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66533 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:11 am to
I lolzed at the aged character thing. At least do a better job of attempting to make them look older if you're going to use the same actors.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11498 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:21 am to
I think we would all agree that the movies left out a ton of side plots. So how long until Warner Bros reboots the series? 10 years? 20 years? It's obviously a big money maker and Hollywood has no more original thoughts. I think there could be a reboot in the future.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25237 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:25 am to
Not without JKs approval will they reboot or further the series. And based on recent interviews with her I have to believe that it's finished. I wouldn't anticipate any type of reboot for this series.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66533 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:37 am to
There have to be more books right? With the money maker it is, I could see them now following the kids as they start their journey. That is the reboot I expect....not a reboot of the already published books.
Posted by pterencetheptineida
LSU
Member since Oct 2008
322 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 10:53 am to
I disagree with the others... as a standalone movie, I wish they had changed a little bit more. I feel as though the movie seriously went downhill once Neville gave his rousing speech after Harry died. And I hated the epilogue, but I always have. It's too much like happy fanfiction where everyone wins.

I think I liked the first DH better but don't get me wrong- I really enjoyed the movie. (I'm also glad I didn't go see it in 3D)
Posted by brgirl09
Member since Jul 2009
425 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 11:06 am to
I really loved the movie.. I thougth there were a few parts where they could have done a better job.. but I really liked the end.. seeing them all grown.. they had it in the book and i'm glad they had it in the movie!
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:38 pm to
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Maybe they didn't need to, but it certainly served it's purpose. Killing the final horcrux is an epic cinematic moment for the series, and they tried to make it that. Whether or not they accomplished the task is up to you.


I thought it was epic enough in the books - Voldemort is unable to silence the people resisting, Neville is tortured, and when V's spell fails he tears the sword out of the sorting hat, beheads Nagini, and Harry throws on the invisibility cloak and disappears. That's pretty awesome, leading up to...

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I'm not following you here. The final fight really wasn't drawn out much.


I see that you didn't read the book. That's cool, but in the book Harry drops off, Lestrange and Voldemort go into the Great Hall, Lestrange is killed quickly by Molly, and Harry reveals himself to Voldemort. They talk for maybe a minute and then Voldemort is killed by his own rebounding curse. He doesn't disintegrate, he just drops dead. So making a three-minute final fight into 30 minutes of bad action is definitely drawing it out.

quote:

it suited the moment


No... it didn't. It's like if Darth Vader, right when he tells Luke he's his father, makes a pun about Luke having only one hand.

Aside from all that, they left out some great possible cinematic moments from the book. The centaurs come to fight, and that could have been awesome. Also, the residents of Hogsmeade come. It would have been better if Harry would have made himself invisible right before he went to the Forest, like he did in the book, and didn't have a pointless conversation with Ron and Hermione. I could go on, but you get the point.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:55 pm to
Does anyone else think, even in the novels, that Voldemort is an absolute retard? I mean he may be intelligent, but he is certainly not clever or a skilled tactician. First of all, why would you hide a Horcrux in a location where apparently hundreds of people have been storing crap in there for centuries? He should know that Harry knows about the Room of Requirement since Draco found out how to use the Room to gain entry to Hogwarts. Shouldn't the first thing he should have done when he took over Hogwarts is move the Horcrux to a safer location?

Secondly why would he have taken Nagini to Hogwarts? Thats exactly what Harry wants and gives him an opportunity to defeat Voldemort once and for all. Thirdly shouldn't he have learned his lesson about making people sacrifice themselves for the good of others?

And finally, what the hell was he thinking about when after he killed Harry? I mean the snake is out there completely exposed, and he should know that in the very least two other people know of his Horcruxes, Ron and Hermione. Shouldn't the very first thing he should have done is kill them, and probably Luna for safe measure since she escaped Malfoy Manor with them? I probably would have relayed to the Death Eaters during the battle that those 2 were equally important targets to kill as Harry was.
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 12:56 pm
Posted by BigturboSRTboy
Augusta GA
Member since Apr 2009
195 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 3:27 pm to
Did anyone else notice David grohl in the 19 years later scene?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 3:34 pm to
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Did anyone else notice David grohl in the 19 years later scene?


No, but I'll look for him next time.

Did it really take anyone else out of the film when Luna just shows up right the frick out of nowhere in Hogwarts, despite the fact we saw her 20 minutes ago at Shell Cottage? I'm sure there's a deleted scene with her and Cho entering, or something like that, but it did take me out of the scene briefly.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

I see that you didn't read the book.


That's funny. I could have sworn I read each book several times. Oh well. You must know.

quote:

So making a three-minute final fight into 30 minutes of bad action is definitely drawing it out.


Do you really think it was 30 minutes? Or are you just being sarcastic?

If I had to estimate the amount of time from the moment Harry drops out of Hagrid's arms, to the second Voldy is dead, I would put it at 5-10 minutes. I wouldn't call that drawn out at all.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

First of all, why would you hide a Horcrux in a location where apparently hundreds of people have been storing crap in there for centuries?


plain sight is often good hiding place. Dumbledore didn't find it despite being headmaster.

quote:

He should know that Harry knows about the Room of Requiremen


Line from the novel states that Riddle never knew what the Room was himself. He never took the time to learn about Hogwarts. Thought it was just another room in the building.

quote:

Shouldn't the first thing he should have done when he took over Hogwarts is move the Horcrux to a safer location?


Snape was now headmaster and he had already left a few Horocruxes in the hands of his followers. Diary-Malfoy, Cup-Bellatrix, so it fits that thinking.

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Secondly why would he have taken Nagini to Hogwarts?


Well he had tried hiding things like the ring away from the world, and that didn't work, he tried letting his followers guard some items and that didn't work.

If you can't hide something, can't trust anyone else to guard it, best place to keep it safe is next to the most powerful wizard in the world himself.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

plain sight is often good hiding place. Dumbledore didn't find it despite being headmaster.

Well it would be just a matter of time before someone found it in there. If I found that room, I would ransack the place for all its worth, and if a Ravenclaw for instance found the Diadem, they would know it immediately, and maybe show it to someone.

quote:

Line from the novel states that Riddle never knew what the Room was himself. He never took the time to learn about Hogwarts. Thought it was just another room in the building.

I think he knew what the room was, but thought he was the only one clever enough to have discovered it. He knew Draco used the room to do his experiment. If he wanted it in Hogwarts so badly, why not hide it in the Chamber of Secrets? No one found that place for a thousand years, and thats completely guarenteed.

quote:

If you can't hide something, can't trust anyone else to guard it, best place to keep it safe is next to the most powerful wizard in the world himself.

Not when you are going to directly face the person who knows your secret and is seeking to destroy you. You would probably want to make sure your safeguard to immortality is as far away from the person seeking to destroy it as possible. He had Harry literally cornered at Hogwarts, so why bring the snake?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69374 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:06 pm to
Also don't forget that Voldemort never counted on anyone else but himself and his closest followers of knowing about the secret of the horcruxes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:15 pm to
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Also don't forget that Voldemort never counted on anyone else but himself and his closest followers of knowing about the secret of the horcruxes.


Still, shouldn't he have been heavily apprehensive once the diary was destroyed and handed straight to Dumbledore? I mean yeah he could have assumed that Dumbledore would think he only made one Horcrux, but what if he somehow came across the diadem and realized it was a Horcrux? Voldemort was just being stupid.
Posted by pterencetheptineida
LSU
Member since Oct 2008
322 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:32 pm to
You raise really good points... But don't forget that in the books, Voldemort didn't know that the horcruxes were destroyed. He wouldn't have known about the diary at all, unless he somehow saw it in Harry's mind. They played that up in the movie [his knowledge of the destruction]. I do agree though that some of his hiding spots were not fitting, and I find it especially odd that someone who has been made out to be a creature that trusts no one would hand his soul to two of his followers. He was explicitly described as one who didn't have a friend. It would make more sense that his horcruxes would be in remote places like the cave with the locket.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

And I hated the epilogue, but I always have. It's too much like happy fanfiction where everyone wins.
I'm not a big fan of the epilogue, but really? Look at the fairly large death toll in the series, I don't think a happy ending is out of order. The readers earned it. My problem with the epilogue is certainly not that it's happy. The characters earned that happy ending through seven books of suffering.
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