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Posted on 3/29/21 at 10:12 am to JoeNelson
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maybe a silly question but howis he (Bradley old and Bucky is still young? thought they both had the super soldier serum
Bucky was put "on ice" by Hydra in cryo-suspension between missions over the last 75 or so years.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:53 am to BRich
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Bucky was put "on ice" by Hydra in cryo-suspension between missions over the last 75 or so years.
It seems like the U.S. would have used Bradley on some types of missions over the years. Doesn't make sense to keep him locked up and experiment on him when he was powerful enough to get the better of Winter Soldier in that fight in Korea.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:55 am to Methuselah
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It seems like the U.S. would have used Bradley on some types of missions over the years. Doesn't make sense to keep him locked up and experiment on him when he was powerful enough to get the better of Winter Soldier in that fight in Korea.
He didn't seem to be in a very cooperative mood.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:07 pm to pvilleguru
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He didn't seem to be in a very cooperative mood.
Not after being locked up and experimented on for 30 years. Seems he fought Winter Soldier in Korea willingly. If they had handled it differently, his abilities surely could have been useful in numerous situations.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 2:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Usain Bolt runs at about 24 mph at full sprint. The speed Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes and T'Challa were running at during Civil War was closer to 65 mph.
Honestly wasnt sure what figure is considered fast on foot because I never cared for track or anything like that. Felt 15 mph were a somewhat normal number so I bumped it up a bit. I did feel it was a bit low still. Probably should have said 30 mph.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:22 pm to stateofplay
quote:did you not see the propaganda video showing him throw the shield, hit 2 targets then come back and catch it.... then did it again?
When has a normal guy done what Steve did or Bucky for that matter.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:24 pm to stateofplay
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It doesnt obey the laws of physics so anyone can use it.
yea ok..... by all evidence it does obey laws of physics. only it has off the charts material properties..... that doesnt mean you can throw it and it will go left instead of right.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:26 pm to etm512
quote:that were using al types of martial arts? I get your point but their fighting style didnt give off the "untrained, lightly trained" vide.
He foughtquote:with super strength and didn’t really overpower any of the
untrained or lightly trained young adults
Good point
am i going to have to go make a bunch of gifs showing this? I know we are overanalyzing this but come on. open your eyes.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:my wife and i were talking about this when the bank scene was going on and they did have Sam mention, that they work voluntarily of something to that effect. Which IMO is BS and like you said Stark would have funded this and he or Cap would have 100% known about his parents failing business prior to the snap and would have had it settled. Now after the snap imagine the marketing that back could have done saying it does business with Falcon. I dont believe that would just turn him down. They would have given him the money and signed him on an endorsement deal.
I'm also curious as to how Sam is making money, or who's giving him the authorization to do the things he's doing. Is he with the gov't or not? You would think being an Avenger comes with having an Amex black card or something from Stark.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:41 pm to CarRamrod
May be downplayed a little bit but I find it unlikely to be near Walker’s. One or two may be trained well, and help the others. But overall I get the impression they aren’t supposed to be very professional.
I think the show just wants to get it across that these guys are currently above them. Basic training can go a long way with an augmented body. Once he gets the serum I think he deals with them in a much easier way.
I think the show just wants to get it across that these guys are currently above them. Basic training can go a long way with an augmented body. Once he gets the serum I think he deals with them in a much easier way.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:43 pm to hth52
Even Michael Scott runs faster than 30 mph.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:52 pm to hth52
quote:i get that too.
May be downplayed a little bit but I find it unlikely to be near Walker’s. One or two may be trained well, and help the others. But overall I get the impression they aren’t supposed to be very professional.
this hasnt been mentioned yet and beware of the shiny hook, but what makes Disney love Erin Kellyman so much that they star her as the mastermind and the dangerous ring leader Enfys Nest in Solo and now the same character for the Flag Smashers.
I mean she isnt cute? But yay Girl Power!This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:34 pm to CarRamrod
quote:Cap and the Falcon were at odds with Stark over the Sokovia's and were on the run along with others on their side. They get back together as a team again when the Earth is in peril from Mr. Thanos, and of course, old Sam is sent off into exile along with half the population thanks to Thanos. So, I doubt that leaves Sam hardly any time to have an ole heart-to-heart talk with Cap and Tony about his family's failing business. Besides, being the type of proud man that he is I doubt Sam would even approach Cap and Tony in that manner.
Which IMO is BS and like you said Stark would have funded this and he or Cap would have 100% known about his parents failing business prior to the snap and would have had it settled.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:42 pm to hth52
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Probably should have said 30 mph.
That’s still slow for a superhuman. Your average house cat can run up to 30 mph. Cars on a highway are going at least 50 mph. So more like that.
Regarding the 20 mph thing, if you watch the NFL they track the speed on long runs. Some of those guys can easily accelerate to like 20-22 mph with full pads on.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:57 pm to tucoco
quote:he was saving the world before civil war but I see your point. And I see your point with him being too proud but that's what made tony so good was his planning, he would have anyone on the team worrying about dealings at home. But if all of that is true you can't deny my point about the marketing and how companies wouldnt lend money to the people who saved the world. Hell we have people giving high schoolers cars and bags of cash because they might be good at sports.
Cap and the Falcon were at odds with Stark over the Sokovia's and were on the run along with others on their side. They get back together as a team again when the Earth is in peril from Mr. Thanos, and of course, old Sam is sent off into exile along with half the population thanks to Thanos. So, I doubt that leaves Sam hardly any time to have an ole heart-to-heart talk with Cap and Tony about his family's failing business. Besides, being the type of proud man that he is I doubt Sam would even approach Cap and Tony in that manner.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:18 pm to CarRamrod
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that were using al types of martial arts? I get your point but their fighting style didnt give off the "untrained, lightly trained" vide.
am i going to have to go make a bunch of gifs showing this? I know we are overanalyzing this but come on. open your eyes.
I'm not sure, but I think they are setting them up to be a bit out of their element when the big guns start facing off.
The way they handled the escape from Power Broker's men certainly didn't make them seem ultra formidable. All they could think to do was skedaddle while one guy could do nothing but sacrifice himself when it seems like all they were up against was a small contingent of men with guns.
If they wanted to set the up as a top notch threat, seems like there were many more impressive ways they could have had them handle the Power Broker's guys.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:51 pm to CarRamrod
Yes, and that is very true in the world that we live in today, that these kids are getting substantial gifts under the table, and I don't know how they get away with it. But I get what you are saying about this scene in that the racism by the bank exec being a Lil overblown because he knows that Sam is the Falcon. My guess is that the Marvel producers just wanted to drive home the point about race, regardless...
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:04 pm to tucoco
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get what you are saying about this scene in that the racism by the bank exec being a Lil overblown because he knows that Sam is the Falcon
That wasn’t a race thing on the bank’s part, they had sound financial reasons why they declined his application. You can either pay the loan back or not. His history pointed towards not likely so they didn’t approve it. Pretty cut and dry. The guy he talked to is essentially what the cashiers at Target are, they don’t have any control over who gets approved. They take information, pass it up the food chain and then tell the applicant the what’s what.
Sam’s sister is the one who made it all about race. She has a massive chip on her shoulder.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:04 am to CarRamrod
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he was saving the world before civil war but I see your point. And I see your point with him being too proud but that's what made tony so good was his planning, he would have anyone on the team worrying about dealings at home. But if all of that is true you can't deny my point about the marketing and how companies wouldnt lend money to the people who saved the world. Hell we have people giving high schoolers cars and bags of cash because they might be good at sports.
We have to assume that the last words Sam and Tony spoke to each other was in the Raft prison cell in Civil War, because they never interacted in Infinity War or Endgame and I doubt they were secret text buddies in the time between that.
So I doubt 1) Tony knew about Sam's family's finances 2) Sam would feel comfortable asking Tony for a hand out.
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