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re: Official Falcon and the Winter Soldier Episode 5 Discussion Thread
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:06 am to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:06 am to TheeRealCarolina
quote:No, TONY is gone. Pepper is running Stark's company, it didn't just fold.
All of your post is meaningless because Stark is gone now.
I mean, Apple still exists after Jobs died, right?
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:06 am to imjustafatkid
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Even if I believe all of that, I'm also supposed to believe this super powered dude just sat by while the entire world, and his whole family with it, was going to end in any of the Avengers movies?
His backstory is that he was a soldier in The Korean Conflict. Let’s assume he was about 20 at the end of that in 1953. That would make him about 80 during the Battle of New York.
Why is it so hard to believe that a poor, 80 year old man in Baltimore wouldn’t rush out to save the world? Also, let’s not act like there was a whole lot of lead up to the Battle of New York occurring in the public consciousness.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:08 am to nicholastiger
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The Disney social justice card is starting to become really pathetic being interwoven in all these shows and movies
Melt you pathetic pussy.
This show isn’t being woke. It’s being empathetic, something you know nothing about. You don’t think a black man wouldn’t have reservations about being Captain America? Probably thinking about backlash from people like Bradley who believe no black man should promote a country that’s shite on him and also dealing with people like you who no doubt exist in this universe. People who believe Sam is only Cap because he’s black and for “wokeness” instead of seeing with their own eyes that Sam absolutely deserves to be Cap
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:21 am to Jyrdis
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So you’re just ignoring Reed Richards and Victor von Doom.
Nope. Still not as smart as Shuri, you keep forgetting they have studied Vibranium for decades and their tech is all based from that, things no one else on earth has access too.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:26 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:With the serum, he's basically immune to diseases, and a whole lot of the aging process. Hell, just look at the real world, what modern nutrition and medicine has done for guys like, say, Stallone etc.
His backstory is that he was a soldier in The Korean Conflict. Let’s assume he was about 20 at the end of that in 1953. That would make him about 80 during the Battle of New York.
Why is it so hard to believe that a poor, 80 year old man in Baltimore wouldn’t rush out to save the world?
The serum is going to be 100x better than that, they could probably whip the current heavyweight boxing champ well into their 80's.
They'll age at their cellular and genetic pre-programmed max, not due to any external stuff like we do.
Dude might not have had time to get there, but you better believe, grievances or not, he'd REACT to an alien invasion and shite like that. That isn't a government, that's an extinction-level threat. In Avengers, you probably had gang-bangers shooting at the Chitauri, a couple blocks over from the National Guard.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:34 am to Jyrdis
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So you’re just ignoring Reed Richards and Victor von Doom.
He just likes mary sue Shuri better.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:40 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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He just likes mary sue Shuri better.
Or I just know my comic book characters better than him. And you apparently.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:45 am to whatiknowsofar
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Nope. Still not as smart as Shuri, you keep forgetting they have studied Vibranium for decades and their tech is all based from that, things no one else on earth has access too
So you have a girl crush. We get it. Marvel doesn’t even rank her ahead of T’Challa
Marvel
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:16 pm to Jyrdis
That list is hilarious for having Moon Girl first. She clearly needs smarter writers if she's supposed to be the smartest character.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:55 pm to imjustafatkid
Yeah, she hasn’t done enough to be the most intelligent in the comics. Richards and Doom have had decades to showcase their talent.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:08 pm to Scoob
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Dude might not have had time to get there, but you better believe, grievances or not, he'd REACT to an alien invasion and shite like that. That isn't a government, that's an extinction-level threat. In Avengers, you probably had gang-bangers shooting at the Chitauri, a couple blocks over from the National Guard.
You're 100% wrong, but playing your game for a second, what event in the movie MCU universe would he be able to get to in time to do anything from Baltimore? What intel does he have other than watching the news? How is he getting there? Where is his suit, armor, weapons, shield, anything? He is an enhanced human, but doesn't have alien, god-like or mutant powers, he is still mortal and can't fly or teleport. And last, once the gov't realized he isn't "dead", of course he would be hunted down, captured and incarcerated. Similar to say, the Avengers in CW.
But even if you could account for everything above, that's not even a real issue. Probably the only thing that would get him to leave his house might be his grandson being in danger.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:20 pm to Scoob
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Dude might not have had time to get there, but you better believe, grievances or not, he'd REACT to an alien invasion and shite like that. That isn't a government, that's an extinction-level threat. In Avengers, you probably had gang-bangers shooting at the Chitauri, a couple blocks over from the National Guard.
If he cant get to New York then what the hell is he supposed to do?
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:33 pm to Scoob
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Dude might not have had time to get there, but you better believe, grievances or not, he'd REACT to an alien invasion and shite like that. That isn't a government, that's an extinction-level threat. In Avengers, you probably had gang-bangers shooting at the Chitauri, a couple blocks over from the National Guard.
Yep. No one just sits back and lets the world die with them and everyone they love on it. Not believable. At all.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:35 pm to NOLALGD
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Probably the only thing that would get him to leave his house might be his grandson being in danger.
Yes. That's exactly why he'd leave the house in an extinction-level event.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:16 pm to WicKed WayZ
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This show isn’t being woke. It’s being empathetic, something you know nothing about. You don’t think a black man wouldn’t have reservations about being Captain America? Probably thinking about backlash from people like Bradley who believe no black man should promote a country that’s shite on him and also dealing with people like you who no doubt exist in this universe. People who believe Sam is only Cap because he’s black and for “wokeness” instead of seeing with their own eyes that Sam absolutely deserves to be Cap
That’s how I feel and I think they’ve done a good job. At first when the old guy was talking Ill of America and white people I was turned off, then Sam said “Steve didn’t put you in jail” that really hammered in that they put the old man in a backwards thinking light and Sam in a forward. Sam is a good character and deserves it. It really showed that black people deserve stuff too but need to work for it also and Sam is 100% putting it in.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:22 pm to Scoob
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No, TONY is gone. Pepper is running Stark's company, it didn't just fold.
I mean, Apple still exists after Jobs died, right?
What company? Exactly how much business do you think they were doing in those 5 years? And they were chilling out at a lake house, what makes you think she was still running it, especially when half of their employees vanished in an insistent.
And again, we have never seen Falcon and Pepper interact before. They have been on screen together for two scenes: Portals and Tony’s funeral. They don’t know each other on a personal level. The grieving widow excuse is nonsense. He’s not going to her for money because they don’t know each other.
And why would Tony know or care about Falcon anyways? Their only interaction was during the events of Civil War. Last time Stark and Falcon directly interacted, Sam apologized for what happened to Rhodey and Tony used his repulsor on him.
As for Tony knowing about Peter, let’s be honest, they threw some some shite together because they gained the rights to the character and needed a reason to bring him into the fold quickly. Don’t overthink it. Hell if you think about it, it paints Tony into a bad light. Why are you bringing this 15 year old across the planet to fight in a battle he has no part in against battle hardened adults?
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:35 pm to WicKed WayZ
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This show isn’t being woke
Uh what
It is crazy over the top woke. It’s really annoying.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:16 pm to Fun Bunch
IMO this show is not close to how fun/good Wandavision was.
I like John Walker - good heel turn
Falcon character alright
Bucky is lame
More of the hot blonde please
The shite about borders and kicking people out is stupid though.
I like John Walker - good heel turn
Falcon character alright
Bucky is lame
More of the hot blonde please
The shite about borders and kicking people out is stupid though.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:17 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yep. No one just sits back and lets the world die with them and everyone they love on it. Not believable. At all
Again, what is he supposed to do about it?
Battle of New York - Aliens appear out of thin air over New York City.
Ultron - City randomly starts flying in Eastern Europe.
Thanos - Aliens appear out of nowhere in Africa.
Thanos II - Aliens appear out of nowhere in upstate New York AND he may or may not have been snapped to begin with.
Correct me if my timelines and locations are incorrect. But he had no resources other than super strength. And he’s been in hiding, with the government believing him dead, for 30 years.
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