re: Official Big Brother 17 Season Long Thread (Spoilers/Live Feeders/Maybe NSFW)

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I'm hooked. This is the first year and this is a hard playing cast.

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I almost didn't get the feeds this year because last year was so boring because Derrick kept the house pretty chill most of the time. But I'm so glad I did because this year has been non-stop craziness.

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Vanessa and Austin are trying too hard. They aren't bad players, but they both have fumbled this HOH. It will go as planned, but has it been good for their game? They had their alliance before the week started. Do they gain much by getting rid of Jeff?

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They played way harder than they had to. Like I've stated several times, all Vanessa had to do was just wait until replacement noms and just say "Jeff, you think you've been playing a smooth game, but you've been playing way too hard and talking crap about too many to too many people. Take a seat."

But I actually do think they do gain a lot by getting rid of Jeff. You have to take players out of the opposing alliance, and Jeff was the hardest playing player in that alliance saying that Austin was his target. So they really did have to get rid of him.

Yeah, all she does is just sit around and goes over all of these different scenarios in her head and it is making her super paranoid. She even told Austin and Liz that she has done the odds in her head and she believes Freaks & Geeks (them and Steve) has a better chance at making it than their alliance with Clay and Shelli (because she thinks someone will try and breakup Clay and Shelli). But she seriously needs to take a break from fixating on all of the scenario and odds and stuff.

Truth or dare again tonight. This time with alcohol.

So far,
James licked whipped cream off of Austin's chest
Clay licked BBQ sauce off of Jeff's armpit
Becky sucked mayo off of Steve's big toe

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everyone knows Audrey is FOS. So 6th Sense (or whatever their alliance is called) figured that keeping a bigger target in the house was a good idea so that the house continues to have someone else to go after

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I've seen this play out the last several seasons...actually maybe eveyr season I've watched (this is only like my 5th or 6th year watching). Sometimes it backfires as that sure fire out ends up hanging around for quite some time and picking off some good people.

My question is, has there ever been a time like maybe in the early seasons where all the major targets were picked off in order? So like using this season as an example, it'd be like if Jace, Audrey, and Davonne all went out first. Then what happens when the house is just full of people with no real #1 target? Seems like that'd make for entertaining TV as people would have to be super selective about how they want to proceed.

I just went to Jokers and caught up with everything that happened while I was asleep, and from the updates it seems like Vanessa, Austin, and Liz are more shakey with Clay and Shelli than they would be with Steve which is freaking insane. Clay and Shelli have been nothing but loyal to that group. They need to cut that crap out because it'll eventually cause discord in their group, and it is way to early for that since there are still way too many other targets that could still come after them.

And Vanessa's conversation with Audrey is also insane. It's hard to tell from just the Jokers Updates how the conversations really went, but it sounds like from reading them that Vanessa is really considering doing a final 2 deal with Audrey. But maybe she is just telling Audrey what she wants to hear, although the longer Audrey stays in the HoH room the more I am starting to wonder.

James is pretty awesome.

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wtf for? What could audrey possibly have to offer anyone in the house? She's annoying, nobody likes her, her physical/social games are both weak, and she has been a massive target in the house since the first week.

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Hell, I don't know. Maybe Vanessa is just keeping her close so she doesn't blow her game up or something. It's hard to tell with her because she is a professional poker player, so I don't think she ever really shows her true hand. But I truly think Vanessa is over thinking things right now, and is trying to lay way too many things out way too early. The two people that she should trust the most right now are Clay and Shelli. They have done the most so far to build trust with her, but I think Jeff got her to thinking that her odds aren't good if she ends up final 3 with them since they are a couple. She just needs to chill out and wait a few weeks and see where the cards fall.

On another note, Becky's last boyfriend was 51...5 freaking 1.

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I've seen this play out the last several seasons...actually maybe eveyr season I've watched (this is only like my 5th or 6th year watching). Sometimes it backfires as that sure fire out ends up hanging around for quite some time and picking off some good people.

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The psychology behind it is always interesting to watch, and it does seem to happen every season both on BB and Survivor. I think sometimes it is justified, like last week when Shelli got rid of Davonne. She knew Davonne would be coming after her and Clay, but didn't think they were on Audrey's radar.

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My question is, has there ever been a time like maybe in the early seasons where all the major targets were picked off in order? So like using this season as an example, it'd be like if Jace, Audrey, and Davonne all went out first. Then what happens when the house is just full of people with no real #1 target?

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It happened a few seasons ago, but I forget which season. I think it was the Nerd Herd, maybe?. There were 5 or 6 of them, and they picked off the big targets each week, and the final few weeks were painfully boring. I may be thinking of the wrong alliance name though. All I remember was a gay guy named Kevin.

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Becky seems well enough. Fairly attractive, outdoorsy, seems kinda fun. But she's also just....idk. I can't really say anything definitive about her personality. She hasn't seemed to make any friends (or enemies) in the house. She's just kind of there inhabiting space. 51 year old boyfriend? Something's not right here.

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And she also said that her parents were hesitant about her going on the show because she used to date a black guy that he may have been a basketball player or something (that is what Audrey used to say her parents were racists). I'm wondering if the 51 year old was also the basketball player or ex-basketball player.

Also I think the train accident may have effected her also. She has stated that it made her reevaluate her life, and she made changes to the way she was living. Heck, a train to the head probably could definitely cause some brain damage to some extent.