re: Official Better Call Saul Season 3 Episode 5: Chicanery

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We're talking a foodcourt Cinnabon...yall are seriously overthinking minutia.

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We are on the 16th page of an episode thread at 1 am. This is where minutia lives.

This just blew my mind. Had zero clue that's who he was. Zero.

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Jimmy is not remotely "a good guy." He's a POS who had to defend himself not against a lie, but the truth, concerning the fraud he perpretrated against his brother, which made Chuck look like an idiot in the one area of his life he holds most dear, the law.

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THIS. Everyone I watch the show with, understandably so, roots for Jimmy at every turn. Much like Gilligan made us hate Skylar White, he's made us hate Chuck.

Both are much better people than their counterpart, not that they're perfect, but they try to do the right thing more often than not. Meanwhile, we cheer as Walt kills and cooks and Jimmy cons.

Vince Gilligan is television.

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THIS. Everyone I watch the show with, understandably so, roots for Jimmy at every turn. Much like Gilligan made us hate Skylar White, he's made us hate Chuck. 

Both are much better people than their counterpart, not that they're perfect, but they try to do the right thing more often than not. Meanwhile, we cheer as Walt kills and cooks and Jimmy cons. 

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People aren't perfect, but as far as malice..I feel chuck has more in him. His constant moves of hurting and keeping down his younger brother for years, it's undeserved..using his position to manipulate and put others in a bad spot.

He knows better. He should be better.

AMC should recognize that Vince is their man. He's done more for that network than anyone else has. And let's be real, walking dead & etc. doesnt have shite on Vince & peter and never has.

Always wondered what he would do with that show given a season lol

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Vince's products are way better at everything than TWD, but TWD has way more viewers. It's one of those culture things that just is popular because it's popular. 

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I watch TWD when it's on, but it's more of a "ive watched this since Halloween of 2010 and I have time invested..and there's nothing else on Sunday night" now.

No way as invested as I was in BB. There is no beauty in their writing. Acting is weak. The numbers are there, but on a decline. Breaking bad's numbers grew over time.

Positive word of mouth is the best publicity imo. How silence of the lambs was on its initial theater release,..as far as it all goes on tv though, emmys speak for themselves lol

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THIS. Everyone I watch the show with, understandably so, roots for Jimmy at every turn. Much like Gilligan made us hate Skylar White, he's made us hate Chuck.

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I didn't hate Skyler. I don't root for Jimmy. I think he's pretty detestable, actually. Chuck is more pathetic than hate-inducing.

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Both are much better people than their counterpart, not that they're perfect, but they try to do the right thing more often than not. Meanwhile, we cheer as Walt kills and cooks and Jimmy cons.

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Jimmy's cons haven't been all that compelling for me. Unlike Walt, I think Jimmy's unsympathetic scum, and I don't think his backstory was worth three seasons. OTOH, I liked Saul, and that may be because he was administered in small doses. It remains to be seen whether a show about Saul will be good.

The whole Jimmy/Chuck dynamic is just depressing to watch. Jimmy's trapped in it out of loyalty, and yet he keeps a close relationship with a person who thinks he isn't any good, resents him, and wants him to fail. The courtroom scene diminished everyone, especially Jimmy, for the reason I gave in the post you replied to.

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Walt is a bigger POS than Jimmy could ever be. He had a massive ego which led to his downfall, and is a narcissistic a-hole. He ruined the lives of so many more people than Jimmy (not Saul yet) has thus far. I actually hated him more than I hated Skylar.

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I didn't say Walt didn't become a POS. He didn't start out as one, though, and that makes him more sympathetic. I understood where Walt was coming from, and despite all the damage he caused, cooking empowered him, made him alive. That was exciting to watch, and when it turned truly dark, it became tragic.

He was always egotistical. He walked out on his the what would become a multi-billion business because of it. He also refused to take his friends' payment and job offer and decided to ruin his family and multiple other people's lives by cooking meth instead.

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FTWD is terrible)

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It will convert to epic masterpiece if the whisperers show up on walking dead and Alpha is unmasked to be none other than Madison.

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It remains to be seen whether a show about Saul will be good.

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if you don't think this is a good show by now gtfo