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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread

Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:42 pm to
15 years ago, Iron Man was a narcissistic alcoholic.
Posted by memphis tiger
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:58 pm to
Finally saw it this afternon

Really enjoyed it. I’ll admit I liked Infinity War better but I thought it was a good ending for Tony and Cap.


One question, maybe this was addressed in the previous 96 pages but did they ever explain where Korg, Valkyrie and the other Asgardians were all this time and how Thor found them?

Maybe I missed it
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:41 pm to
They evacuated who they could when Thanos' ship approached. Since Thanos' MO was to eliminate half of all sentient life, he killed only those who didn't get out in time.

The destination of the refugee ship at the end of Thor:Ragnarok was Earth/Midgard.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:37 pm to
2nd even if the movie could have cut a ton of it. The finger field goal game was useless. Him falling asleep and nebula moving him was just redundant . That’s 2 minutes alone right there.

Also, I felt like some of the jokes were too much
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:42 pm to
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The finger field goal game was useless.
I don't think so. I think it showed a lot of growth for Nebula, and even a little bit from Tony.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:47 pm to
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2nd even if the movie could have cut a ton of it. The finger field goal game was useless.


In the context of this movie, yes.

In the context of the MCU, are you a special kind of stupid?

Dont you realize that was the first game the character ever played purely for fun, with no dire consequences for losing?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t make an impact on her character going forward.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:10 am to
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Dont you realize that was the first game the character ever played purely for fun, with no dire consequences for losing?

When he lost, she should’ve demanded that he forfeit a body part and accept a cybernetic replacement.
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:59 am to
Plus it gets a call back when Tony has to flick Antman onto his past self during the time heist.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:48 am to
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There are two schools of thought on that:

1. He could pick it up and elected not to.

2. He couldn’t yet because he was harboring some guilt about not telling Tony that Bucky Murdered his parents. Keeping that kind of secret from a friend made him unworthy.


Cap's been worthy since skinny Steve Rogers jumped on that dummy grenade in First Avenger. Most superheroes have to go through adversity or some life changing experience to get the heart of a hero. Steve Rogers was born that way.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:21 am to
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Maw takes her second vial to Thanos and he looks at it. You might have sneezed and missed it
It was a fast scene.


I thought Past Nebula took it to him. Either way, all they needed was to show or more directly imply that Maw reproduced the particles. It would have alleviated a major plot issue that has been pointed out so much that the Russos addressed it in a press interview.

quote:

Comic Book Movie had the full translation of Russo's explanation: "There is a guy called Maw in his army, he was a great wizard. Thanos himself was a brilliant genius as well. Those two easily reverse engineered and mass produced Pym Particles."

Looper: The Big Thanos Plot Hole in End Game Finally Explained
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:51 am to
Saw it again tonight.


An odd thing I liked: How bulky and badass War Machine’s armor was at the final battle. He finally looked like how I imagined he should look like
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 8:46 am to
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But when Vision & the Mind Stone’s destruction/explosion were reversed Wanda was not rewound. She was still on ground where she landed after she destroyed it and looked up and noticed it happening.


The time stone can be used on individual objects/people without affecting anything/anyone else. Have you seen Dr. Strange?
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:28 am to
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2nd even if the movie could have cut a ton of it. The finger field goal game was useless. Him falling asleep and nebula moving him was just redundant . That’s 2 minutes alone right there.



Man, that was a great moment for both characters. It showed how Nebula was starting to understand Terrans, and herself a bit more, so that later pre-time travel, it makes since that she cares enough to be on the team Widow is coordinating. You can't take that away, leave her kind of bitchy, and then "Oh look she's helping Earth.....for what reason?"

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:11 am to
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Man, that was a great moment for both characters. It showed how Nebula was starting to understand Terrans, and herself a bit more, so that later pre-time travel, it makes since that she cares enough to be on the team Widow is coordinating. You can't take that away, leave her kind of bitchy, and then "Oh look she's helping Earth.....for what reason?"


It also leads to some potentially hilarious moments later on.

Both Rocket and Nebula can now hold Peter Quill to the "Tony Stark" standard.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:54 am to
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Co-director Joe Russo confirmed that Hulk had been similarly affected in an interview with ComicBook. "It's permanent damage," Russo explained. "The same way it was permanent damage with Thanos. It's irreversible damage." Specifically, it's Banner's arm that seems to have taken the brunt of the punishment, which makes sense because that's the part that held the Gauntlet. "If you notice, his arm is a lot skinnier, it's blackened," the director continued. "So he loses a lot of strength there."


well I guess he's just green banner now
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:35 pm to
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The time stone can be used on individual objects/people without affecting anything/anyone else. Have you seen Dr. Strange?


I did, but since I didn’t like it that much I just vaguely remembered the time loop that forced villain to leave. My original question was about if reversing destruction of mind stone also created a parallel timeline and didn’t think the loop in Strange changed history (at least to same extent as changing Vision’s original death & Mind Stone’s destruction after the fact - not a planned loop) and was more about trapping villain to force him to leave. I just relooked at a summary for movie and see Strange also initially tried to reverse process of Dark Dimension before doing the time loop I had remembered. Probably did other things in movie that I don’t remember, but kind of like first 2 Thor movies I just can’t sit through it with turning it something else.

To get the actual people dusted by snap back and not just recreations or copies I was also assuming the Time Stone played a part and just wanted to see if its use to change past events (like Mind Stone destruction & now billions SnapBacked 5 years later) while not creating alternate parallel timelines has been consistent with stone’s past usage even if maybe not fully explained in past.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:58 pm to
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In our heads, he was able to wield it. He didn’t know that until that moment in Ultron when he tried to pick it up. But Cap’s sense of character and humility and, out of deference to Thor’s ego, Cap in that moment realizing he can move the hammer, decides not to.


Per the Russos...that settles it
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:10 pm to
That more seems like a cop out for Ruffalo to either retire with the OG’s or to keep going. They can always find a way to heal him through some bullshite if Ruffalo wants to keep going. But if he wants to semi-retire it’s a way for him to be written out with him not having a good excuse. He doesn’t seem to be knocking down tons of doors for other jobs and he’s not gonna be in a separate Hulk movie anytime soon, so I bet he sticks around
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:59 am to
It would have been pretty cool if Tony would have snapped all of the evil beings from the universe instead of just Thanos and his minions.

Of course there would be no need for more movies then...
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:20 pm to
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It would have been pretty cool if Tony would have snapped all of the evil beings from the universe instead of just Thanos and his minions.


They tried that in a Green Lantern comic. Alan Scott instructed his ring to eradicate all evil on Earth. He was the only person left on Earth.
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