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re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:24 pm to jeff5891
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:24 pm to jeff5891
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I just quoted a specific that you were wrong about
I love how you think so highly of yourself
I mean, shite, give me my day in the sun. When 3 years of bitching turns out to be totally justified, it feels pretty good.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 3:24 pm
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 5:20 pm to OMLandshark
I went and saw it yesterday. It has it warts but it is not as bad as people are making it out to be. DOOMSDAY was pretty fricking terrible though.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 5:25 pm to lacajun069
Yeah...I went to see it for a second time yesterday and, while not a good film, it isn't as awful as the reviews are saying.
I'm still disappointed that it didn't turn out better but it wasn't the abortion I remember it to be.
Zack Snyder still needs to be booted from the DCEU though. He brings nothing to it but pretty visuals.
I'm still disappointed that it didn't turn out better but it wasn't the abortion I remember it to be.
Zack Snyder still needs to be booted from the DCEU though. He brings nothing to it but pretty visuals.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:21 pm to OMLandshark
quote:how did you feel about affleck when he was cast as batman?
When 3 years of bitching turns out to be totally justified
And how do you feel now?
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:22 pm to BlacknGold
Positives:
1. Affleck did a good job as Batman.
2. Wonder Woman was the best part of the movie for me
3. The intro with Batman seeing Superman fighting
4. I actually didn't mind Eisenberg as Luthor.....BUT I admittedly haven't read Superman comics because he isn't my favorite. I don't like my heroes so......super.
Negatives:
1. So...Batman kills people now? It was on my damn mind the whole movie.
2. I found myself just not caring about Lois and Superman's relationship.
3. Didn't enjoy any of the dreams and thought it was forced.
4. Got annoyed with the Batman origin stuff. I think we all know his origin....but I can understand why they included it
5. Batman vs Superman fight was meh
6. Doomsday fight was a little better but still meh
1. Affleck did a good job as Batman.
2. Wonder Woman was the best part of the movie for me
3. The intro with Batman seeing Superman fighting
4. I actually didn't mind Eisenberg as Luthor.....BUT I admittedly haven't read Superman comics because he isn't my favorite. I don't like my heroes so......super.
Negatives:
1. So...Batman kills people now? It was on my damn mind the whole movie.
2. I found myself just not caring about Lois and Superman's relationship.
3. Didn't enjoy any of the dreams and thought it was forced.
4. Got annoyed with the Batman origin stuff. I think we all know his origin....but I can understand why they included it
5. Batman vs Superman fight was meh
6. Doomsday fight was a little better but still meh
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:48 pm to OMLandshark
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When 3 years of bitching turns out to be totally justified,
On BvS
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The Good: Casting Ben Affleck as Batman/Bruce Wayne
Pre-BvS
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If he were the writer, director, or producer, it would give me hope. But as the actor, frick no.
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I think I'd make a good filmmaker, but I know I'd fricking blow as an actor. Some people just don't have it in them. He's mediocre at acting, and should by no means be Batman.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:50 pm to jeff5891
Give him his due. He ended up hating the movie that he predicted he would hate.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:43 pm to jeff5891
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how did you feel about affleck when he was cast as batman?
And how do you feel now?
Well, it seems like you didn't read my quote in the last page. I thought that starting with The Dark Knight Returns version of Batman would be an awful, awful idea. And I was still correct on that. You don't start a franchise with that version of the character.
Granted though, it seems that even though Snyder himself wants that version of the character, Affleck portrayed it otherwise. He's not that version of the character despite that costume, and is closer to a 40s Conroy depiction of the character. This is the general direction they are taking the character, which is a huge plus, I've wanted to see for years and think the stand alone Batman films should be excellent, so long as Snyder has absolutely nothing to do with them. Honestly put the James Bond and X-Men franchise in a blender, and that's how Batman movies should be.
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Pre-BvS
As I said, I initially said he was a bad choice, but I came around about a year ago.
And since you are serial stalking me, I'm willing to take a guess that post was back in 2013.
And I have little doubt I'd be a better filmmaker than Zack Snyder. Granted, I'd give most of this board that honor as well, so that's a low bar.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:57 pm to OMLandshark
I just wanted to look through the old affleck announcement post. I can't help that you post the same thing over and over and over and over again.
quote:around the same time the reports came out that he was good..... Interesting
but I came around about a year ago.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:03 pm to DeathValley85
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1. So...Batman kills people now? It was on my damn mind the whole movie.
He's been doing it since he first appeared on colored television back in 1966:
LINK
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:11 pm to jeff5891
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around the same time the reports came out that he was good..... Interesting
It was more to do with Jason Todd, the Killing Joke references, and the Suicide Squad. The Suicide Squad really helped redeem it that they weren't simply going with an old militarized Batman, which was my fear. Granted, it seems as if Snyder still wanted that, but fortunately largely failed in portraying that.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:13 pm to RollTide1987
He's killed in every movie except Batman & Robin. People really need to get over it.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:14 pm to DeathValley85
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Superman comics because he isn't my favorite. I don't like my heroes so......super.
Hence another reason to boot Synder out for good. Superman is who he is, and Snyder's pseudo-original love affair with the "flawed hero" flat out DOES NOT work with the Man of Steel. Superman and his bubble-gummy goody two shoes persona is JUST who he is. Snyder can't help himself but to try to re-invent him...of all heros...Pfffttt.
Affleck was the least of my worries, as it turned out. I liked him better as George Reeves playing Superman than Bruce Wayne...ok, not really...I don't like him period.
Am I glad I didnt pay to see this.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:Yep. He kills more people in BvS, but I don't think people have a leg to stand on with that argument. It's like "I'm OK with Batman killing a few murderers, but if he kills too many, I have a problem with that."
He's killed in every movie except Batman & Robin. People really need to get over it.
At least Snyder's Batman doesn't try to give the false illusion that Batman doesn't kill.Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:29 pm to abellsujr
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At least Snyder's Batman doesn't try to give the false illusion that Batman doesn't kill.
If they're to do Red Hood effectively they have to. And I think that's the implied antagonist for the next Batman film.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:34 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Personally, I don't think they're going the traditional Red Hood route.
If they're to do Red Hood effectively they have to.
ETA: I think you also have to think about other aspects of villains and what makes them different from Batman. Like in Batman Begins. Ras thought he was doing things for the greater good by holding a city hostage. There's a difference between doing that and killing a murderer.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:35 pm to OMLandshark
So we don't get to see Snyder molest Darkseid like Doomsday?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:35 pm to 19
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quote: Superman comics because he isn't my favorite. I don't like my heroes so......super.
Hence another reason to boot Synder out for good. Superman is who he is, and Snyder's pseudo-original love affair with the "flawed hero" flat out DOES NOT work with the Man of Steel. Superman and his bubble-gummy goody two shoes persona is JUST who he is. Snyder can't help himself but to try to re-invent him...of all heros...Pfffttt.
Exactly.
The reasons that Superman isn't one of my favorites are the same reasons a lot of people love the character. Don't try to make me happy Snyder you dumbarse
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:36 pm to DeathValley85
Have an upvote.
Only a total arse like Snyder would follow 99% of the source material in Watchmen, then change Ozzy's plan at the last second.
frick that. frick him.
Only a total arse like Snyder would follow 99% of the source material in Watchmen, then change Ozzy's plan at the last second.
frick that. frick him.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:43 pm to 19
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So we don't get to see Snyder molest Darkseid like Doomsday?
There's not much to molest with Doomsday. He's just a mindless monster. There's as much depth to him as the Cave Troll from the Lord of the Rings.
Darkseid though can be a pretty deep antagonist. He makes Thanos look terrible in comparison. I'd go so far to say that if Marvel and DC were one in the same, Thanos wouldn't exist and it would simply be Darkseid.
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