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re: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Disney+) - Episode 6 Discussion Thread

Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:34 am to
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:34 am to
Was Book of Boba well received by this board? That show bored the frick out of me and I’d watch Kenobi 1000 times again before rewatching that season 1.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:36 am to
Hit or miss. Basic feelings were it had lots of stupid with some really good moments.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:39 am to
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Hit or miss. Basic feelings were it had lots of stupid with some really good moments.
My main complaint is that they ended up just putting the toys back in the box. No eventful changes for the classic characters.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:40 am to
Only a few seconds of Liam at the end too
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:41 am to
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Was Book of Boba well received by this board? That show bored the frick out of me and I’d watch Kenobi 1000 times again before rewatching that season 1.


The quality was probably the same, but it's a lot easier to enjoy a subpar show about characters that don't have a defined future. When Disney decided to do OWK, they took the risk of involving a ton of characters that have to fit into a certain mold. That's why I want more new stories and new characters in the Star Wars universe. I don't need them to rehash past characters.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:41 am to
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Vader is one of my favorite characters and the reason Star Wars is so good, but I wasn’t excited at all during his scenes like I was at the end of Rogue One. They ruined the brand




That was one of the major flaws of this show.
We all want to see Vader more at this time in his life, but it's probably better for tv show/movie purposes you limit his screen time and when you do put him on screen, you leave the audience in awe, like in Rogue One.
The only time that happened was when he kicked Reva's arse without a light saber. That was bad arse. The rest of his screen time just didn't live up to who he is or should be.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:45 am to
Disney has shown over and over again they have a fundamental lack of understanding of the characters. It is evident when the writers are talking about never even seeing the prequel trilogy. It is a joke.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:45 am to
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1. She finds Luke by randomly landing on a PLANET and asking for a farmer named Owen



Reva already met Owen once before so she knew the area he lived in.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:50 am to
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Reva already met Owen once before so she knew the area he lived in.


So there is only one Owen on a planet?
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:51 am to
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That was one of the major flaws of this show.
We all want to see Vader more at this time in his life, but it's probably better for tv show/movie purposes you limit his screen time and when you do put him on screen, you leave the audience in awe, like in Rogue One.
The only time that happened was when he kicked Reva's arse without a light saber. That was bad arse. The rest of his screen time just didn't live up to who he is or should be.


But thats the point. Kenobi fricks up his mind so much he nerfs Vader. these Siths/Jedi's all have matchups that are bad for them.

Vader was incredibly powerful when it wasnt Kenobi on his mind
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:52 am to
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That was one of the major flaws of this show.
We all want to see Vader more at this time in his life, but it's probably better for tv show/movie purposes you limit his screen time and when you do put him on screen, you leave the audience in awe, like in Rogue One.
The only time that happened was when he kicked Reva's arse without a light saber. That was bad arse. The rest of his screen time just didn't live up to who he is or should be.


But thats the point. Kenobi fricks up his mind so much he nerfs Vader. these Siths/Jedi's all have matchups that are bad for them.

Vader was incredibly powerful when it wasnt Kenobi on his mind. Even in Episode 4, He was nervous during and after that fight. Obi had messed him up by tricking him so many times and being more calm cool collected that Vader didnt know what the deal was
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:54 am to
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I'm saying that primarily because of the knowledge we have regarding how Disney treated Luke and Leia in the Disney trilogy. The focus is on Leia for that same reason


ahh yeah, I feel that. I still am very okay with how they did her story. young Leia is a far better character than Rey could ever be. The actor crushed it imo. The running chase scenes were weird but after that I felt like her character nailed it
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:55 am to
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Disney has shown over and over again they have a fundamental lack of understanding of the characters. It is evident when the writers are talking about never even seeing the prequel trilogy. It is a joke.




The Rogue One Director isn't that way. When he was chosen to head that movie he felt like he wasn't worthy of doing it justice. It made him work even harder to make a great movie b/c he was Star Wars fan first and foremost.
Same goes for Filoni and Favreau.

Its when they hire these idiots that have plans outside of Star Wars first and foremost where they suffer.
I have no complaints about having the third sister be in this show and have a story arc, or showing Leia be a strong leader and be fearless. I expect that from a young Leia, just like you expected to see extraordinary things from young Anakin. And i expect Luke to live a boring normal life. But how they executed all of that was just pathetic.
I would have rather seen the "sister" be the one from the clone wars show, even though that wouldn't fit cannon. That would have been a great way to have a spinoff show for that Sister if she was from the same planet as Darth Maul and then you can go and explore that mystic world in a series, and then you have an opportunity to show more of Darth Maul as well.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:58 am to
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Reva already met Owen once before so she knew the area he lived in.
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So there is only one Owen on a planet?


There's plenty of enough crap in this series to chew. No need to feign obtuseness in order to fabricate shite.

Tatooine is a sparsely populated desert planet.
Reva had done previous research and knows exactly where the Jedi hotspot was on that planet.
Owen stood out from the other sheep on her initial visit.

The fact that she made the trip at all is a bigger red flag than her finding Owen.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:59 am to
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But thats the point. Kenobi fricks up his mind so much he nerfs Vader. these Siths/Jedi's all have matchups that are bad for them.




i don't have a problem with that. I expect Darth Vader to struggle with Obi-Wan, and i expect it b/c his rage to need to defeat him clouds his judgement and power as a fighter against him, and Obi-Wan knows that and uses it to always defeat him.


I just expected a better light saber fight between the two of them. It wasn't bad, i still enjoyed it, i just thought it should have been better, and as i said, why they didn't play into the "high ground" aspect of the fight is beyond me. I mean they set it up for it, then just ignored it. I guess they subverted my expectations. Well done Chow.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:01 am to
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So there is only one Owen on a planet?



If you're Reva and you were recently on Tatooine where you suspected Obi-Wan was and where you met a guy named Owen, wouldn't you start there?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:01 am to
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The Rogue One Director isn't that way. When he was chosen to head that movie he felt like he wasn't worthy of doing it justice. It made him work even harder to make a great movie b/c he was Star Wars fan first and foremost.
Same goes for Filoni and Favreau.


Filoni and Favreau are obvious exceptions, mainly because Filoni actually knows what he is doing and has been in Star Wars for so long, working hand in hand with Lucas. He knows the characters backwards and forwards.

Rogue One did a great job with Vader, but that was about it, but yes he did a great job there.

The rest of Disney has no idea what they are doing.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:11 am to
I’m just getting tired of Vader being USED as a benchmark to show how strong OTHER Jedi are

He’s constantly getting his arse kicked to prop up other characters:

Luke
Ashoka (essentially)
Roblio Darté
Jastus Farr
Koffi Arana
KkH'Oar'Rrhr
Star Killer
Karak
Obiwan (twice)

At some point we need to ask ourselves - is Vader really just a pussy?

Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:14 am to
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Rogue One did a great job with Vader, but that was about it, but yes he did a great job there.



The battle at the end of that movie is probably the best long battle scene in all of star wars. The space fighting was great, the ground fighting was great, the cinematography was great, and what really made it even better was how great the score was during it. Music can elevate scenes, and that's what Star Wars is known for and that's what you get when you watch Rogue One, and Mandalorian, and Boba Fett. And i'll give it to the sequel trilogy that the music was great for those as well even though the movies sucked. It's a big part why most people loved the Force Awakens when it first came out. It felt like Star Wars and the music definitely played a big part.
The music in this series was severely lacking.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:17 am to
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At some point we need to ask ourselves - is Vader really just a pussy?




I don't know who the rest of those people are, but i'm not sure why you'd expect Vader to ultimately kill his son, or his padawan, or his master. Kick their arse for a while sure, but he'll never be able to go through with killing them. It's why he turns back to the light, b/c deep down inside there's good in him always, and he'll never be able to kill those people b/c they are his only family.
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