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re: No Country For Old Men [rewatch]
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:59 am to Cdawg
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:59 am to Cdawg
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Flawless.
2 minor complaints. First, how in the frick did Llewlynn not know there was a tracking device in the money? He seems like a sharp guy, but he didn't even check the case to see if there was a tracking device?
And second, it would have been an interesting turn if Chigurh had been killed in the car crash after he killed Carla Jean.
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:34 am to Ten Bears
There are implications that Chigurh is a supernatural entity who thrives on chaos, Maybe Satan himself. Watch as he limps away from the scene of the accident. When the boys start fighting over the money he straightens up and begins walking stronger.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:02 pm to Ten Bears
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2 minor complaints. First, how in the frick did Llewlynn not know there was a tracking device in the money? He seems like a sharp guy, but he didn't even check the case to see if there was a tracking device?
And second, it would have been an interesting turn if Chigurh had been killed in the car crash after he killed Carla Jean.
I haven't seen the movie in a few years, but he probably deduced that the only way Chigurh could possibly know where he was was a tracking device being in the briefcase.
You're second point isn't really a complaint, but the whole point was that Chigurh wasn't merely human.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:20 pm to UnluckyTiger
quote:i never have understood what his actual plan was...once he got down there and found moss he had to know Chigurh would know he was there and looking for the money. he spent all that time telling moss that he couldnt win against Chigurh but clearly neither neither could he
Carson Wells
i dont get it. wells' whole plotline was pointless
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:06 pm to cgrand
Although he knew that Chigurh was very dangerous he still underestimated him, didn't quite grasp the evil, robotic force that was Chigurh. He was an arrogant man. He claimed to know what Chigurh was all about, but he really didn't.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:13 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Although he knew that Chigurh was very dangerous he still underestimated him, didn't quite grasp the evil, robotic force that was Chigurh. He was an arrogant man. He claimed to know what Chigurh was all about, but he really didn't.
Ed Tom was struggling to grasp that the world he grew up in was becoming more evil and violent. Moss grew up in a time that was more evil than the one Ed Tom grew up in (including serving in Vietnam), but like you said he didn't grasp how powerful the forces at play he was dealing with were.
Its like two separate lenses looking at the same thing; the drastic difference an older man sees in the current times vs his younger days compared to a younger man struggling to see the changes he will clearly notice when he is older while they happening currently.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:15 pm to Funky Tide 8
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You're second point isn't really a complaint, but the whole point was that Chigurh wasn't merely human.
I've never heard this theory before. He's about as close to a Terminator as you could get in real life but definitely not a fan of him actually not being human. Would take away from the movie quite a bit.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:16 pm to Funky Tide 8
I get all that but we knew all that already
what was Carson’s plan? How was he going to get the money and get it away from chigurh?
he didn’t even try to take defensive measures. At no time was it even possible that he was a better match for chigurh than moss was
what were his specific skills that made him fit for the job? We weren’t showed anything
what was Carson’s plan? How was he going to get the money and get it away from chigurh?
he didn’t even try to take defensive measures. At no time was it even possible that he was a better match for chigurh than moss was
what were his specific skills that made him fit for the job? We weren’t showed anything
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:28 pm to cgrand
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what were his specific skills that made him fit for the job? We weren’t showed anything
They didn't do a good job explaining it, but he was a hitman who was also in Vietnam like Moss was. The latter part is briefly mentioned.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:06 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I've never heard this theory before. He's about as close to a Terminator as you could get in real life but definitely not a fan of him actually not being human.
Ultimately, Chigurh is a metaphor. McCarthy commonly used the "unstoppable evil" character archtype of which Chigurh is a classic example in the novel. Chigurh represents the coming violence and anarchy that is out of the scope of Bell's capacity to understand and deal with.
Of course the Coens used a version of this "unstoppable" archtype in some of their own original films (notably M. Emmett Walsh's character Loren Visser in Blood Simple, Tex Cobb's Lone Biker of the Apocalypse in Raising Arizona, the Sheriff in O' Brother), but there is commonly a more comedic or ironic facet to it.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:58 pm to Ace Midnight
"it's the tide, the dismal tide. It is not the one-thing"
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:08 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ultimately, Chigurh is a metaphor. McCarthy commonly used the "unstoppable evil" character archtype of which Chigurh is a classic example in the novel. Chigurh represents the coming violence and anarchy that is out of the scope of Bell's capacity to understand and deal with.
Yea I mean I get that and that's pretty much how I've always viewed his character in the book and movie. I had just never heard a "he's not human/supernatural/Satan" thinking before. I personally don't really think a metaphor of unstoppable evil/the personification of evil the same as non human.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:30 pm to Ace Midnight
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but there is commonly a more comedic or ironic facet to it.
I actually thought there were some funny scenes with him. The one with the shop owner in that gif above, plus his scene with the fat woman overseeing the trailer park. Plus him just sitting and drinking milk was even funny to me for some reason.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:31 pm to deeprig9
One of the greatest films of all time.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:35 pm to Honest Tune
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funny scenes
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he one with the shop owner in that gif above
Does not compute. I've read the book and seen the movie probably 5 times and that scene still makes me nervous, much less laugh.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:41 pm to Honest Tune
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Tommy Lee was not good at his job.
Whaaaaaaat?
Well, tell me how he succeeded and I’ll rethink that. I’ve only seen it once.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:48 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Does not compute. I've read the book and seen the movie probably 5 times and that scene still makes me nervous, much less laugh.
I like subtle humor. When the shop owner tells him he got it from his wife’s family and Anton asks him, “you married into this?”. Plus the part where he mentions not putting the coin in his pocket because it’ll just be another coin… “which it is”… this lets me know the whole flip game is just that to him… a game. I thought it was a funny scene.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:53 pm to alajones
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Well, tell me how he succeeded and I’ll rethink that. I’ve only seen it once.
First off… I get your point. Broad picture… he couldn’t stop the evil embodied by Chiguhr.
The whole movie was about him being a man of ethics, morals and wisdom. He did all that he could do to try to keep people like Moss and his wife by being sucked up by the evil personified in AC, but ultimately this new world was “no country for old men” and he couldn’t control their actions. I consider him to be a good sheriff and admire the old school detective approach he had towards piecing it all together.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:21 pm to UnluckyTiger
One of my favorite bits of dialogue occurs when the Sheriff Bell and Wendell come upon the massacre.
"These two here appear to be management..."
" If it aint', It'll do until the mess gets here.."
" Now that there's a question..do they stop being Mexicans
when they're dead?"
" Hells bells, they even shot the dog."
"These two here appear to be management..."
" If it aint', It'll do until the mess gets here.."
" Now that there's a question..do they stop being Mexicans
when they're dead?"
" Hells bells, they even shot the dog."
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:28 pm to deeprig9
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Where'd you get that new gun?"
"At the gettin' place"
Stolen from All The Pretty Horses which was made 7 years earlier.
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