re: New Trailer for 'Dune Part 3' Updated with new teaser

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You people are broken beyond belief that you think like this

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What an odd response.

Denis Villeneuve has stated that he was raised in a feminist environment in Quebec and intentionally centers strong, complex female characters in his movies. Which is obvious if you've seen any of his films.

He's said that he wanted to elevate the roles of females in the movie, mainly Jessica and Chani. (And to some extent Princess Irulan).

Which is why changes were made to the source material.

Kynes is now a black woman.

Jessica is a more aggressive, and overt manipulator of religious prophecy than what was in the novels. Instead of only using the Fremen's religion as a survival tool, she is pushing for Paul to become their leader and to eventually become the Kwisatz Haderach.

Chani, instead of being the religiously devoted wife of Paul, is now a strong independent woman who fights him every step of the way. And is disdainful of the thought of a Fremen messiah.

None of this is in dispute. The director has said all of this himself. I'm not sure why your response was so aggressive.

I know the interview you are referring to.

The fact that you would even think about it, or care when watching these movies is crazy.

The thought never entered my head a single time when watching them.

I like film Chani infinitely better than book Chani. Its substantially more interesting. I think he succeeded.

If he had beaten some feminist angle over everyone's heads I would be annoyed by it, but I don't think its even remotely apparent on screen

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The fact that you would even think about it, or care when watching these movies is crazy.

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The fact that I thought about how he changed major characters for his movie is crazy to you?

If it helps, I also didn't like how he treated Stilgar in the 2nd movie.

I also took issue with his odd take on the secular more progressive Fremen being at odds with the religious Fremen.

My take on his Dune movies has always been that the 1st movie was almost perfect. (How he handled Paul's visions of Jamis was genius). The second made odd changes to the source material that didn't make the movie any better.

What's funny to me is that Frank Herbert had some feminist leanings himself. And that women are basically running the Dune universe after book 4. Really women are running that universe behind the scenes since the founding of the Bene Gesserit.

But you seem to be irrationally angry about people who are fans of the source material talking about how they didn't like the changes made to fit the director's world view.

We can't just disagree with those changes. According to you, we're "broken people." And that we should "seek help." Seek help for what? Not liking a movie? Is there a support group for that? Dune Anonymous?

Your weird outbursts over this says more about you than it does us.

I’m not going to look for a bunch of articles about every movie he’s ever made. But here’s one about Dune specifically since that’s what we’re really talking about.

Den of Geek

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“I always have been, since I was born as a filmmaker, concerned, inspired, and sensitive about the female condition and women’s relationship with power,” Villeneuve tells Den of Geek when we sit to chat with him ahead of Dune: Part Two‘s release. “Why? Because I had been raised in the ‘60s and ‘70s in a feminist environment, which is something that I love. So what is specific about the way I approached Dune? I would say it’s probably women. That’s the first thing I said to Eric Roth, who started to do the adaptation at the beginning. He asked me to summarize in a word what I wanted to do, and I said, ‘Women!’”

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To make things easier I pulled this straight from Google:

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Key Examples in Villeneuve's FilmographyArrival (2016): Arrival stars Amy Adams as Dr. Louise Banks, a linguistic professor who becomes the central savior and intellectual core of the entire global crisis. Villeneuve centers the alien encounter not around military might or male action heroes, but around empathy, communication, and a mother's profound emotional processing of time and choice.

Sicario (2015): Sicario features Emily Blunt as Kate Macer, an idealistic FBI agent thrown into the brutal, morally compromised war on drugs. Villeneuve fought to keep a female lead against studio pressure for a male protagonist, using her perspective to expose how institutional violence and systemic corruption crush idealism.

Polytechnique (2009): This stark, sensitive dramatization directly confronts real-world misogynistic violence. It centers on the tragic 1989 anti-feminist mass shooting at a Montreal engineering school, dealing intimately with survival, trauma, and the resilience of women in the face of targeted hatred.

Blade Runner 2049 (2017): Addressing criticism regarding dystopian gender dynamics, Villeneuve noted that his grim aesthetic reflects a world that "is not kind on women". He populated the sci-fi sequel with multi-faceted female figures possessing immense power and agency—such as the resistance leader, the corporate enforcer Luv, and police lieutenant Joshi—alongside a tragic exploration of artificial intimacy via the AI character Joi.

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He didn’t write Sicario or Prisoners.

So is he becoming evil
Or something?

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So is he becoming evil
Or something?

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It's difficult to explain. Is Paul evil, or have evil intentions? No. Does he knowingly go down a path that he has reason to believe he will lose control of, and will end up in the death of tens of billions of people and the complete end of hundreds of cultures and civilizations? Yes.

Like I said. It's complicated.

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So is he becoming evil
Or something?

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TigerFanatic99 did a good job explaining it.

Paul really has no good options. He can see into the future, but his vision is limited. He explains it as if he's on a boat in waves. When he's on top of a wave he can see the other wave tops, but not the troughs. When he's in a trough he can see the wave before him, but not the other waves and troughs.

But what he can see is either the death of himself and his family (he describes his children murdered, and Chani being kept in a cage for public ridicule and abuse if I remember correctly), or him taking control of the known universe which leads to the deaths of billions.

There is a certain path he should take to save humanity. This is explained in the later books.

So is he evil? No. But he is forced to do and allow evil things.

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He didn’t write Sicario or Prisoners.

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Ahh yes because he wrote Dune.

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Ahh yes because he wrote Dune.

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He did write Dune so 0-3 for you