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re: New details about George Lucas' original ideas for the sequel trilogy emerge
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:11 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:11 pm to Bench McElroy
So who should have played Darth Talon had this movie been made?
My first thought was Karen Gillan
My first thought was Karen Gillan
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 1:13 pm
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:39 pm to Shiftyplus1
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But wasn't the prophecy about bringing balance to the Force? So wouldn't Luke, who rebuilt the Jedi and destroyed the Sith, be the REAL chosen one?
I've always wondered how eradicating one side of something made it "balanced."
If I throw out half of a pizza, it's not "balanced."
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:42 pm to skrayper
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I've always wondered how eradicating one side of something made it "balanced."
The entire sith philosophy is a perversion of the force. "Balance" has never been about equal sith and jedi.
The force being unbalanced would be using the force power to take over the galaxy. The jedi represent the balance of the force because the power of the force doesn't consume them into evil deeds of greed and power.
Balance = only jedi no sith
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
I thought the trilogy was going to be about Luke’s two kids? Doomcock (I know) talked about it on an episode previously in detail
Posted on 11/9/20 at 2:09 pm to skrayper
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Lucas is a great idea man, but he needs others to flesh out those ideas. That's why the prequels were so bad compared to the original trilogy
100% iirc that's also how it worked with the Thrawn trilogy, it was a Lucasfilm outline that they let Zahn develop
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 2:12 pm to Shiftyplus1
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But wasn't the prophecy about bringing balance to the Force? So wouldn't Luke, who rebuilt the Jedi and destroyed the Sith, be the REAL chosen one?
just one of many stupid nonsensical things in the prequels. The Jedi were prominent and the Sith thought to be extinct thus Palpatine by bringing the Sith back was really the one who brought "balance" to the force
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 2:22 pm to Bench McElroy
So Darth Maul is alive: hasn’t done shite Lukes entire life.
Goes from silent menace to mob boss and there is like another random Sith.
MEH
Goes from silent menace to mob boss and there is like another random Sith.
MEH
Posted on 11/9/20 at 2:49 pm to Bench McElroy
They should've resurrected Anakin Skywalker for the sequels and do the same for Palpatine as well. Anakin could've really worked well in that mix that's in the OP.
Star Wars at its core was always a story about Anakin Skywalker and his struggles and fight against Palpatine/Sidious and the sequels could've been amazing with a resurrected Anakin facing off against a resurrected Palpatine with a clear understanding of where they stand against each other and will stop at nothing to defeat the other.
Sidious is the one who destroyed Anakin's life and took everything he loved from him.
Star Wars at its core was always a story about Anakin Skywalker and his struggles and fight against Palpatine/Sidious and the sequels could've been amazing with a resurrected Anakin facing off against a resurrected Palpatine with a clear understanding of where they stand against each other and will stop at nothing to defeat the other.
Sidious is the one who destroyed Anakin's life and took everything he loved from him.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 3:04 pm to BulldogXero
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How do you "start your own planet?"
Ask scientologists.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 3:04 pm to MidnightVibe
Darth Talon could get it.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 3:05 pm to SG_Geaux
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My first thought was Karen Gillan
When are we talking here?
Pam Grier?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:02 pm to Bench McElroy
I can't say I love the idea but it's at least a logical continuation from where things ended in episode 6. And it's focused on Luke and Leia so it's a million times better the than half arse reboot attempt Disney pulled.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:05 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The entire sith philosophy is a perversion of the force. "Balance" has never been about equal sith and jedi.
The force being unbalanced would be using the force power to take over the galaxy. The jedi represent the balance of the force because the power of the force doesn't consume them into evil deeds of greed and power.
Balance = only jedi no sith
Yeah.... but in the EU, there's way more out there than just Sith and Jedi. Plenty of dark side users too that aren't Sith.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Also, if you think back to Return of the Jedi it was VADER who throw the emperor down the energy reactor shaft.
But did he?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:12 pm to SEClint
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Maul should have lived being a presence over the prequels.
Obi wan's story could have been so much better with that addition, and made more sense. Maul basically foreshadowing what Vader would become.
Or..now had the fight between Maul and Obi-Wan ended in a draw somehow. Maul then kidnaps Anakin as a boy to train in secret himself. Letting the galaxies believe they died..to only emerge later.
Imagine a fully grown Anakin who has been trained by Maul for 10+ years. Knowing how to fight like that and as strong in the force.. They would have defeated the Emperor.
Maul lived passed the prequels in what is now canon. He became the crime lord of Crimson Dawn which we saw at the end of Solo and in the CW.
Maul was eventually killed by Obi when looking for Luke.
And ftr Maul and his brother Savage got their asses handed to them by the Emperor.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:40 pm to Philzilla2k
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But did he?
Yes idgaf what the dumb Disney trilogy did.
Anakin was the chosen one and Anakin brought balance to the force by throwing the emperor down the energy reactor shaft which killed him. He died that day.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:54 pm to MidnightVibe
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Ask scientologists.
Mormons
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
I also believe that Anakin brought balance by hunting down and killing members of the overpopulated Jedi Order. The Jedi Order had lost thier ways. After destroying both the Jedi Order and the Sith, he basically hit the reset button on the entire thing.
The sequel trilogy, if needed, should have been about the power vacuum this reset created and Luke's struggle to maintain the balance brought forth by his father.
The sequel trilogy, if needed, should have been about the power vacuum this reset created and Luke's struggle to maintain the balance brought forth by his father.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:58 pm to Piece
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I also believe that Anakin brought balance by hunting down and killing members of the overpopulated Jedi Order. The Jedi Order had lost thier ways. After destroying both the Jedi Order and the Sith, he basically hit the reset button on the entire thing.
The number of jedi vs sith isn't the problem. It's about how the force is used and for what purposes.
Of course if the jedi had it in them they could use the force to take over and rule planets. This is what sith WOULD do.
Maybe you're right that tons of jedi via the clone wars lost their way and what happened was necessary. That's actually an interesting point thats never truly fleshed out.
The balance of the force is strictly about the nature of its use and sith put it out of balance. Their very existence creates an imbalance.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 9:08 pm to skrayper
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Yeah.... but in the EU, there's way more out there than just Sith and Jedi. Plenty of dark side users too that aren't Sith.
Right but the labels serve as a general guide for how the force is used. Yes you have your Pong Krells and Assajj Ventress, but generally speaking jedi is synonymous with balanced peaceful user of the force while darkside users are out of control, manipulative, and power hungry.
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