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re: Natalie Portman to play the first female “Thor”

Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Peggy Carter had a short running TV show. It was kind of good at first.




It was a great show. Shame it was cancelled. Haley Atwell is fantastic.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Peggy Carter had a short running TV show. It was kind of good at first.


It was actually a great show that introduced a pretty decent villain (Madame Masque) and had a lot of potential going forward with Leviathan (Soviet version of Hydra) as an adversary.
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:52 am to
Why is this surprising news to anyone? Most people figured this would happen. My only surprise is that she decided to come back to the MCU. I thought I remembered reading that after Thor 2 she was done with the MCU, and did not really like her role that much.

I figure she saw how much money Infinity War, BP, and Captain Marvel made, changed her mind real quick.

Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:55 am to
Possibly, or Jane Foster getting something to actually do was appealing to her.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 6:01 am to
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Thor is a mans name, not a suit, like Batman, that can be worn by anyone and then you are ,"Thor".

The first Thor movie suggested that it can be both, or at least that someone else could be Thor.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:32 am to
Gonna really piss her off if we're heading to Secret Empire and she causes HydraCap to get the hammer.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:36 am to
Does it?

It’s his name.

Someone else can wield the hammer sure

But idk about being Thor.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:54 am to
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Does it?

It’s his name.

Someone else can wield the hammer sure

But idk about being Thor.

"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."

Not "power of this hammer", but "power of Thor".
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:21 am to
Yeah but the hammer was made for Thor.

Also Thor has powers when he doesn’t have the hammer.

It’s a fricking mess, but I am sure Jane will swing the hammer at some point idk
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:18 am to
It's a bit of a holdover.

Back before Blake and Thor were the same person the cane made em switch places basically.

Then it became Blake/Thor were always the same.

Beta Ray Bill cements the idea of the power of Thor being a mantle. But it doesn't stop Thor from existing and it doesn't weaken Thor.

So nowadays Mjolnir is more a gatekeeper testing a hero's heart and a able to bestow a blessing of power upon those so worthy.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:24 am to
Her phoning in her performance in nearly every blockbuster she's been in doesn't leave me with a lot of confidence. She clearly prefers more artistic films and less special effect centric movies.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:39 am to
Y'know if we get a Natalie Portman Rabbit scene out of this, it'll be worth the gamble.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:08 am to
No issue with other people wielding the hammer and having powers of Thor

I think it just doesn’t make sense for them to be like “oh Thor is Thor anymore. This new Thor is”
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:46 am to
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Are comics at times very SJW? Yes. But comics for a very long time under represented women and minorities. There has been a number of talented writers who have had some great runs on comics with great under represented characters.



"Underrepresented women and minorities."


Where does it say that comic books have to equally represent genders/races/sexualities?


I'm trying to understand why people believe every aspect of life has to have a gender/race quota applied to it. Is there some universal law written some place that explains it?
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:32 am to
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Where does it say that comic books have to equally represent genders/races/sexualities?


"It" doesn't. That is a very spoiled child question to ask. I legitimately hope that you are no older than 15.

Comics are not read by one demographic, but for many years, they were written by one. Outside of a few outliers, minority heroes were little more than tokens and female heroes were there for skimpy outfits. Asking for representation isn't asking for equality. It's asking to widen the demographic of writers to hopefully widen the appeal of all the characters in the comics.

This issue exists in the publishing world. Why do female authors use pen names of initials? Because publishers tell them people won't buy non-romance novels written by women. This is stupid, and the industry is correcting itself. Women aren't recently winning Hugo awards because of an SJW agenda; they are succeeding because publishers are finally putting out their works, and other women are emboldened to write.

There is no quota, and there is no attack on you. Your life is full of women and minorities. Art doesn't have to mirror the real world, but it's nice when it is populated like it. Enjoy your junior year of high school. Try talking to a woman this school year.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:24 am to
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Where does it say that comic books have to equally represent genders/races/sexualities?


Women represent roughly half of the US population (and world).

A few more titles going to women character or writers isn’t going to push out the majority of male characters and writers.

Y’all are ridiculous.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 12:34 pm to
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You are pathetic.


I'm not the one complaining about a "new" female comic book character who has existed for years.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 1:35 pm to
It's not just the tokenism of the female characters taking over make heroes roles.

You have to remember, the SJWs of the comic world have complained about some female characters being too "feminine". Look at how Wonder Woman's and other female characters' costumes have been significantly made less daring.



First they came after our T&A. Now they're coming after our characters. Where does it stop???!!!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Women represent roughly half of the US population (and world).

A few more titles going to women character or writers isn’t going to push out the majority of male characters and writers.




I don't care about male characters. I'm asking why comic book gender/racial distribution should be perfectly aligned to world gender/racial distribution.

Most of the world isnt white, so are you saying its bad most marvel characters are white?

In 50 years when the US is majority Hispanic is marvel comics supposed have majority Hispanic characters by then?

Why arent the majority of characters Chinese/Indian right now?

Is the process of comic creation initiated by choosing the race/gender first and then constructing a story? Would that yield good storytelling? Better yet, has Hollywood produced anything good by focusing primarily on race/gender?

What other forms of media or business should also be mandated to align their business with worldly gender/race population distribution?


Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 2:42 pm to
It definitely looks like you're ignoring the point of pointing out under representation to instead focus on an irrelevant issue of equality in comics characters, which no one is asking for.
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