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re: MTV The Challenge: Total Madness

Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:00 pm to
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Gay Tyler eliminating Bananas for a 2nd time was hilarious thats a huge stain in his resume IMO even though it was actually CT


By virtue of winning a coin toss and being fatter than Bananas


CT later said that the bananas backpack was a one in a million freak happening.

He said he thought he was never coming back on the show after the Adam fight on Duel 2 and when they called he was going all out, basically as an audition to get back on the show.

He said his strategy was initially to just sit there and tire John out then try to lift him, but Johnny kept shifting his weight and rolling and it actually worked against him. It gave CT enough momentum to pick him up easier than just sitting there. Once he was up, it was all over...

Tyler just sat there and CT couldn't get him up. He was obviously fresher with John, though. It was freak luck that he went first.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:01 pm to
count me in for jodi and landon and then wes and ev.

jodi and landon would be the team with no alliances that wins dailies and if they lose, no one is going to want to face them. i understand these are super teams, but you just don't take your chances in your elimination against them when you could possibly have the chance to expose someone like ninja or tori.

disclaimer: i think landon is the best challenger of all time.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:25 am to
Scoreboard

2 votes for Wes + Ev
2 votes for Jordan + Tori
1 vote for Turbo + Ninja
1 vote for CT + Laurel
1 vote for Landon + Jodi

Fo anyone else who wants to participate
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Teams

Turbo + Ninja
Bananas + Camila
Darrell + Rachel
CT + Laurel
Jordan + Tori
Landon + Jodi
Wes + Ev
Rogan + Dee
Evan + Corral
Theo + Jenny


Everyone in their "prime" and lets say its a seasons where the loser of the challenge gets to pick who they get to face in elimination. So politics are kept to a minimum. Who wins?
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:30 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:51 am to
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1. CT + Laurel
2. Landon + Jodi
3. Wes + Ev
4. Darrell + Rachel
5. Theo + Jenny
6. Turbo + Ninja
7. Bananas + Camila
8. Jordan + Tori
9. Evan + Corral
10.Rogan + Dee


My ranking

1. Turbo + Ninja
2. Darrell + Rachel
3. Landon + Jodi
4. Theo + Jenny
5. Wes + Ev
6. Evan + Corral
7. CT + Laurel
8. Rogan + Dee
9. Bananas + Camila
10. Jordan + Tori

Evan and Corral are underrated their team work on Fresh meat was flawless. I think in anything brute strength she's 2nd behind Jenny. I'm not sure Corral could finish a long Final though.

The bottom 3 are interchangeable I think they are going to be the ones called out most often. I could easily see Jordan and Tori winning but I think he's going to get called out over and over in hopes that its something brute strength
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 2:11 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22789 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:28 am to
I think a Derrick K. - Emily Schromm pairing would be a good addition to this category. Problem is, if they get a puzzle, they're toast. Neither were known for their brains.


The disclaimer on all of these teams (except Rogan and Dee) are that any one of them would have a shot at winning a challenge against all the others, especially is you account for politics... Which is basically half the game.

I agree with the Corral angle... She could not run a modern final.

John said the Rivals 1 finale was 23 miles total over 2 days, up a mountain, with the end being a 14,000 ft. summit climb.

War of the World's final was 50 miles over 2 days. Half on a bike and ending with a 26 mile run through the Namibian desert.

Theres no way Corral comes close to finishing either of those. I don't even know if Dee finishes, either. You have to basically be a marathon-level endurance athlete to finish those.

For comparison, I looked it up. The Gauntlet 3 final where Big Easy died was a half mile swim and 1.3 mile run. That's it... That's probably one of the easiest finals ever.

It's daylight and dark difference in the old finals and some of the more recent ones.

The exceptions are those handful of bloodlines and dirty 30 seasons where Ashley won all of her money by walking over coals. Those were embarrassing.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 2:33 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:00 am to
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War of the World's final was 50 miles over 2 days. Half on a bike and ending with a 26 mile run through the Namibian desert
this is why I have to go with Turbo + Ninja

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Derrick K. - Emily Schromm
I think Ty might be a better competitor than Derrick. Either way I think she's held back by either one.

Same with Kam I think she's held back by Leroy. We could shoe her in with Zach or Tony but I tried to keep it realistic

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I don't even know if Dee finishes, either. You have to basically be a marathon-level endurance athlete to finish those


The Final that Dee and Rogan won(with CT & Jordan) was no walk in the park. Dee has heart. If I am not mistake the only elimination she ever lost was a hall brawl with Jenny. Also size/strength wise Rogan might only be behind CT and Turbo. Im not sure who's bigger/stronger between him and Evan
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 9:11 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:59 am to
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I think Wes and Jordan are the 2 best swimmers so in a final or challenge that involves swimming they've got a great chance


Honestly, if Jordan had two good hands I'd pick him and Tori most likely. As awesome as he is with only one hand, that has hindered him in the past several times and if we are picking GOATs out of your matchup list then that has to make J/T fall a bit.

And yes, I'll roll with Wes and Ev. I think Jenny may be the best girl ever on the show, and Theo seems rather dominant, but if we are talking these people at their peaks, then beast Wes (not psycho Wes) and Ev are both top tier competitors and both have the social game locked down as well.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 8:24 am to
Yeah I have Jordan + Tori last. Because they would get called out everytime and if its some brute strength Jordan is fricked and if its a puzzle Tori is fricked.

Jordan is hands down the best at anything that involves strategy and Tori is physically dominant.
Remember Tori DESTROYED Jenny in a hall brawl
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 8:26 am to
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disclaimer: i think landon is the best challenger of all time.


He's certainly arguable for sure. Alton was also way up there.

And I am WAY lower on Natalie (refuse to call her Ninja) than everyone else. I think she kinda sucks (for as much hype as she gets) and her political/house game sucks too. And on top of that, she's a delusional fricking psycho.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 8:27 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:02 am to
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Alton was also way up there.


Alton’s biggest issue was his attitude. He didn’t give 100% all the time.

Alton is the GOAT climber though
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:05 am to
Christ I forgot about that and I even picked Tori/Jordan
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:08 am to
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And I am WAY lower on Natalie (refuse to call her Ninja) than everyone else. I think she kinda sucks (for as much hype as she gets) and her political/house game sucks too. And on top of that, she's a delusional fricking psycho.


I agree with you on this one.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20218 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:10 am to
Was just looking at the proposed cast for the next season and one new name stuck out....

(Spoiler below)

















Lolo Jones. She could be interesting trapped in a Challenge house for weeks.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22789 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:22 am to
She probably needs the money and I bet the Challenge will pay her 6 figures just to show up.

Problem is, she's about as annoying as any personality in the history of the show. She was pissed during the stupid celebrity games. The real house will eat her alive.

No girl have the stones to go against her though. So she'll stick around for a long time. The only way she gets beaten is by a mental game or puzzle.

Only girl I could see unafraid of her would be Laurel.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:37 am to
Yall are crazy Ninja is a beast she finished the toughest final ever, she's 2 for 2 in eliminations and both times against elite competition (Laurel and then her and Paulie vs Kam and the bodybuilder looking dude)

She is a real athlete she and off physique alone she is super intimidating.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:44 am to
Saying that she beat Laurel is disingenuous.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:49 am to
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Saying that she beat Laurel is disingenuous
Ninja got to the top first but couldn't find the last whole. If they both didnt miss 1 hole I see no reason to think Ninja wouldn't have won.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:53 am to
Just rewatched and Laurel is at the top before Ninja. She has one branch left to place when Ninja still has two.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 10:01 am to
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Only girl I could see unafraid of her would be Laurel.


I think Jenny and Tori could give her a run depending on the competition. Or Emily if she came back.

Lolo is obviously faster than any of them (other than Theo) but these competitions are about more than speed. Plus Lolo is 38... only Aneesa is older amongst the recent cast.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 10:16 am to
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Just rewatched and Laurel is at the top before Ninja. She has one branch left to place when Ninja still has two.
in one of those after show things they talk about it they all said Ninja was at the top first
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