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re: MTV The Challenge: Total Madness

Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:07 am to
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:07 am to
Kenny is one of best personalities in the history of the show. Not only was he great in interviews, he was just as good in real arguments/discussions.

You Whacky B*tch


The combo of Wes, Kenny, CT, Evan, and John were the best. It's a shame they'd very few seasons where all of them were on in they're primes. I forgot how long CT was away from the show. After Duel II, I think he was gone for at least 2 or 3 years.

You also forget how much longer he was on the show than the others. By time Duel I came around (John's debut), he was already heavily cemented as one of the main challenge cast. His first session was Inferno I.

I think Rivals I is the best with all of them. Rivals I, Fresh Meat I, both Duels and the Ruins probably had the best casts altogether.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 1:14 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:29 am to
I skimmed over season19 because I can't stand him. All he does is dick ride Evan and Bananas. And in 7 seasons he only won 2 or 3 challenges individually. And in his only ever individual elimination he lost to Nehemiah.

And the entirety of Kenny's personality is just calling girls crazy bitches.

Kenny and Johanna are by far the worst characters ever on the show

Season 20 kind of sucked from an entertainment standpoint but at least it wasn't predictable.

Gay Tyler eliminating Bananas for a 2nd time was hilarious thats a huge stain in his resume IMO even though it was actually CT

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You also forget how much longer he was on the show than the others. By time Duel I came around (John's debut), he was already heavily cemented as one of the main challenge cast. His first session was Inferno I.
ditto for Anessa was she on even earlier than CT
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 3:37 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 12:22 pm to
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But then I start watching Duel II (season 17), and the whole f-ing first episode is gone... Can't watch it. It's the infamous CT - Adam King fight.


Speaking of the Duel 2, watching it now and that has to be the worse opening credits of the series.

That Haka dance is just cringeworthy


LINK
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:42 pm to
I used to think the Haka was really cool. But now even when the New Zealanders do its cringeworthy as hell. When reality TV stars do it...its even worse.

I've been watching Duel I....which is more of a random team competition instead of a solo game. But Wes was an animal back then.

He beat a prime Derrick in pole wrestle elimination. Derrick remember beat Joss just a few years ago in an epic pole wrestle and Joss was bigger than Wes was, even back in the roid-Mohawk days.

It must've been the first really really physical elimination ever in the show, because all the girls were just agast at the brutality of it the whole time. It was about 20 minutes of pure chaos... First guy to get the pole wins. Not 2 out of 3 like they do now.

Wes basically had an emotional breakdown after he won.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:29 am to
I think I overrated Derrick he got whipped by Tyler in an elimination
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:40 am to
After watching these old seasons, Robin is By FAR my least favorite girl of that era or any other Era. The fa t that she was an absolute alcoholic and clearly an emotionally unstable person should have been worthy enough to never let her back in the show. She was not as crazy as Tanya (nobody was) but she was close.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 6:39 am to
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After watching these old seasons, Robin is By FAR my least favorite girl of that era or any other Era. The fa t that she was an absolute alcoholic and clearly an emotionally unstable person should have been worthy enough to never let her back in the show. She was not as crazy as Tanya (nobody was) but she was close.
she was a decent competitor. I wonder if they ever brought back Jodi she was really good won twice.

Fun seeing Kenny get exposed this season(Rivals) we'll see how far Wes can carry him. Evan is fat and I just can't see Bananas and Tyler winning.

CT and Adam should have this in the bag

I wonder how the Miz would do against Wes, CT, in shape Evan, Landon, or Jordan.

Hahahahaaha im LMFAO at the Leroy snoring and cock blocking Adam. And now he's getting counseled by everyone on how to get with Jenn
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 7:00 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:29 pm to
Rivals I is a very, very good season. Coe back after you finish the final elimination if want to know what allegedly really went down. I won't spoil it yet.

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wonder how the Miz would do against Wes, CT, in shape Evan, Landon, or Jordan.


Miz would hold his own against anyone in a strength and brute force based elimination or comeptition. He's a pretty big and strong guy by challenge standards. Probably 6-1.5, 230. Don't know how he'd do on long distance modern finals, though.

He was A very good all around player and was the unquestioned leader on his team.

He used to carry those RW teams against loaded RR teams that had the likes of Darrell, Derrick, Abe, Veronica, Rachel, and Jodi.

RW had Alton for like 1 or 2 challenges and Coral and that was about it.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:36 pm to
Miz today is in better shape than any Challenge competitor since he works out constantly for his job. I'm certain his cardio is top notch as well. CT could probably beat him in brute strength but that's about it. Miz would be a top guy today.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:17 pm to
Fun fact.. Miz is actually younger than CT by like a half a year. CT just turned 40. Miz is still 39.

CT must've been at the top end of the RW age range when he did his show. Apparently he didn't even want to do the show, but he caught the eye of a casting director at a club in Boston 2 weeks before the Paris season started. She basically said to put an interview tape together and basically that he'd get the job.

In comparison, Wes, who we all think of as old, is still only 35. He was a baby when he did RW Austin and all those early Challenge seasons.

He's barely older than many of the Brits. Joss is 31 and Rogan and Bear are both 30.

Back in the day if you were older than about 27, you were considered an old, out of touch loser who didn't have a "real job." They used to make fun of John because of that, all while he laughed his way to the bank.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Miz today is in better shape than any Challenge competitor since he works out constantly for his job. I'm certain his cardio is top notch as well. CT could probably beat him in brute strength but that's about it. Miz would be a top guy today.


I would love to see:
Miz
Evan
CT
Turbo
Landon
Wes
Theo

in a strength/speed challenge. My pick would be Turbo

Wow in Leroy's first season he put Bananas in to the last elimination(vs CT no less) before the final thats crazy. I got a bad feeling Bananas is going to somehow beat CT and Adam though
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:55 pm to
Adam likely cut a deal with John and Tyler to throw the final elimination in Rivals to stick it to CT for all the bullying over the years.

CT didn't believe the threw it during the season or at the reunion, but he believes it now. There's a podcast a couple years ago with Brastool where he says he thinks Adam made a deal right before the elimination.

Adam didn't need the money, he was from a rich family. He was also the fastest and smartest guy in that elimination and at the end he was essentially laying on the ground and not moving.

Adam was apparently friends with John and Kenny in the challenge and CT thought they manipulated him. He said he saw Adam and Tyler right before the elimination talking and he thinks that's when they made the deal.

Adam had multiple boneheaded mistakes., too many for a kid that smart. (CT said he went to Stanford). If that team goes to the final they win, Adam knew that, CT knew that, and especially, John, Kenny, Wes, and Tyler knew that.

Adam I think was never another show.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 10:57 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:29 am to
Thats crazy if Adam really threw it? Watching battle of the exes s22 the first season I vaguely remember watching. Don't remember who wins though.

Robin and Mark are the best team but in spite of being the most experienced team pretty much ever I can already see Bananas manipulating them.

Interested to see if Ty will bang Paula... looks like he has.

Anessa is the worst she is consistently middle of the pack

Wow now I'm seeing Emily in blackface. She seemed like such a reasonable person but she lost her mind jealous of Paula

Diem god bless her got manipulated by Bananas so blatantly that even TJ called it out. How the hell did CT let that happen?

So im watching the final: CT + Diem vs Ty + Emily vs Bananas + Camila

I cant see Diem winning. So its gotta be 1 of the others. I will go with Ty + Emily because I dont think Bananas could win 4 in a row

Wow CT gassed and actually held Diem back from winning.

Bananas really is the GOAT winning 4 in a row
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 5:20 am
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:51 pm to
Watched the Ruins and Fresh Meat 2 over the last few days and I hated doing it because it changed my view on Wes. I forgot what a little bitch he was back then.

In the Ruins, he shows up juiced out of his mind thinking he was the baddest dude on the show. Episode 1, he throws a fit because his team didn’t agree with the way he wanted the voting to go. He then tells his entire team that he was gonna throw the very first challenge to ensure his team lost. And he tried to do just that by trying to pull his team off a rope they had to climb. So his entire team is now humming for him. His political game sucked back then.

He also got extremely lucky that season because he almost got the arse whipping that Brad received from Darrell later that season when he “tried” to fight Darrell. Darrell told Wes in one of the first couple of episodes that you can’t turn a ho into a house wife, (talking about Kelly Anne), and Wes started screaming at him. Darrell calmly told Wes, let’s go outside, walk off the property and he could “catch these hands”. Everyone got in the middle of them and calmed Wes down.

Next season on Fresh Meat, Wes’ political game was all over the place. He pulled every dirty trick in the book to avoid going into exile and cut deals with everybody. He even backstabbed his best friend Danny by getting him thrown in. And then when he finally gets thrown into exile, his partner Mandi has to wait for Wes, scream for him to catch up, and finished before he did. He laid a turd in that exile and was the reason he lost.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88159 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:54 pm to
But what Landon pulled off in Fresh Meat 2 by winning that season has to be the most impressive win in this history of the challenge.

He beat Kenny and Laurel, who dominated that season, with Carely, the last girl pick of the fresh meat draft. She sucked. He dragged her big arse through two grueling exiles that were legit, tough exiles hiking up a mountain while carrying 100 or 150 extra pounds most of the way.

Then in the final, he literally pushed her up a mountain while carrying an 80lb duffel bag. And he did it all without ever raising his voice to her while remaining calm and encouraging the entire time despite her basically zoning out.

Dude is easily the best teammate you could have on the challenge and if not the GOAT competitor, is certainly in the top 2 or 3.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:17 pm to
Landon is a monster he and old man Mark are the 2 most "cordial" teammates.

If it wasnt for This Elimination he would of been 4 for 4 winning every season he was on.

Brad just out smarted him slapping the ring.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Then in the final, he literally pushed her up a mountain while carrying an 80lb duffel bag. And he did it all without ever raising his voice to her while remaining calm and encouraging the entire time despite her basically zoning out.


That was a HOF level performance.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:31 pm to
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If it wasnt for This Elimination he would of been 4 for 4 winning every season he was on.

Brad just out smarted him slapping the ring.

Man I totally forgot about that. And Landon STILL should have been able to get that ring before Brad did. Brad dove at it and managed to get it on. Impressive win from Brad there.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:52 pm to
My fantasy season

Team

Turbo + Ninja
Bananas + Camila
Darrell + Rachel
CT + Laurel
Jordan + Tori
Landon + Jodi
Wes + Ev
Rogan + Dee
Evan + Corral
Theo + Jenny


Everyone in their "prime" and lets say its a seasons where the loser of the challenge gets to pick who they get to face in elimination. So politics are kept to a minimum. Who wins?

My pick is Turbo + Ninja
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104012 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 2:50 pm to
That's a tough one, but I think prime Jordan and Tori would be tough to beat.

Honestly only Bananas + Camila and Rogan + Dee would surprise me as a winner. I don't think Camila and Rogan could hang on the cardio side of a final. CT might not be able to either.
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