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re: Mr. McMahon (Netflix) *Spoilers*

Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:15 pm to
People stopped watching after Rock and Austin left. Brock Lesnar was supposed to be the next big thing but then he quit not long after. The shows were still great for a few years but guys like Kurt Angle and HHH couldn't come close to that level of star power.
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:40 am to
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I wish I could remember exactly when and why I stopped watching because during the Attitude Era it was cant miss TV.

It must have been 2002 when I stopped. From 1995-2002.


I remember the first WWE Draft which happened in 2002. I looked through some of the PPV's following that and I vaguely remember some of them. Then I see some in 2003 that I have no memory of (i.e. Judgement Day with Lesner vs Big Show in a stretcher match??).
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:04 am to
I had no idea John Stossel was a little bitch

Dude FAFO
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70034 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:53 pm to
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People stopped watching after Rock and Austin left.



Yea, that was about the time for me. As someone who watched wrestling for a very long time, it just wasnt appealing anymore for me. I watched way back when Georgia Championship Wrestling was around. Gordon Solie.

I watched this entire documentary today and I loved it. I have always been a Vince fan and what he did and always will be.

No era was better than that Rock/Stone Cold era for me


Austin 3:16
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:10 pm to
WCW
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25241 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:18 pm to
I stopped watching early-mid 2000’s and didn’t know about a lot of the behind the scenes stuff besides the kliq curtain call and Montreal screwjob.

Vince really gave zero fricks. Sable leaves and sues them for sexual harrassment, then comes back and Vince does a storyline with her having an affair with him

The storyline Stephanie said she refused to do with Vince having gotten her pregnant is one of the cringiest things I’ve ever heard. They had some weird shite in their storylines but that would have been legit hard to not change the channel for those segments if they had done that storyline.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:25 pm to
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Austin 3:16


Does he really believe CTE isn’t a thing? I was definitely surprised when he said that.
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2156 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Or is he saying that if you have a reckless style, i.e. you do a DIVING HEADBUTT every match, this could be a large contributing factor?


I grew up watching wrestling when Hacksaw and Sting was on ECW I believe. WCW with the fued between Sting and NWO were some of the best times.

Also Undertaker and Mankind.


My question today is how can they fall from Hell In the Cell matches into tables, wrestlers, etc and not break any bones. I know they built them to withstand the inertia , but it’s still 16-20ft high.



Shane McMahon jumped an astonishing 50ft Cell. Unbelievable!!
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8521 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:47 pm to
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He's basically saying that if you are injuring your wrestling partner, then you're a fuking hack anyway and shouldn't be wrestling.


Something going wrong in a match, which clearly happened to Austin, compared to headshots over a period of time which can cause CTE aren’t the same thing. I know it’s a documentary and its all edited but it sure made it look like Austin doesn’t think CTE is a thing, nor does he care.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70034 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:23 am to
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Does he really believe CTE isn’t a thing? I was definitely surprised when he said that.


Well, when you have probably had 10 concussions, you would not believe it either.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70034 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:24 am to
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Vince really gave zero fricks. Sable leaves and sues them for sexual harrassment, then comes back and Vince does a storyline with her having an affair with him



I remember that story line with him getting her pregnant then he supposidily got Linda pregnant again. She had her tubes tied but he said he was such a bad arse, that could not even stop his seed.

He was calling himself the "Genetic Jackhammer".
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25241 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:53 am to
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My question today is how can they fall from Hell In the Cell matches into tables, wrestlers, etc and not break any bones. I know they built them to withstand the inertia , but it’s still 16-20ft high.
The tables cushion the fall, especially the announcer table. They’re still taking a bump, but its not like they’re slamming into solid ground from that high. Or another wrestler that’s on the floor is basically being trusted to catch the high flyer. Guys have gotten hurt jumping over the ropes to the outside and the other guy fricked up and didn’t catch them

The one I always thought was insane was Mankind getting chokeslammed through the roof of HITC into the ring. Foley was legit insane for some of the stuff he did, especially barbed wire stuff in ECW.

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Shane McMahon jumped an astonishing 50ft Cell. Unbelievable!!
You mean when he fell off the top of the stage climbing to run from Steve Blackman? Watch that spot…his landing spot was cushioned. Looked great on TV though
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 9:56 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83769 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 10:25 am to
Finished watching, as a casual fan as a kid back in the late 90s, there was a lot I was unaware of.

The saddest part of the doc was how he treated Shane and then when he made his return, you could see on Vince's face in the ring, real pride. When he was supposed to be serious, he had a grin like "theres my boy".
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2156 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:15 pm to
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The one I always thought was insane was Mankind getting chokeslammed through the roof of HITC into the ring. Foley was legit insane for some of the stuff he did, especially barbed wire stuff in ECW.


Yea I agree with you, that was crazy! I’m sure they do something with the barbwire? Maybe dull it down? However, I recall it actually sticking!

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You mean when he fell off the top of the stage climbing to run from Steve Blackman?


I’m referring to the Big Show March! I know the table is cut and braced together, but if I jumped on one at that height it would still be falling through wood
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11117 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:42 pm to
Mr McMahon is a sick puppy. I sold some steroids and hGH to Adam Bomb/Wrath (Bryan Clark) back in the day and the shite he told me about ‘the business’ was almost unbelievable. Sounded like a damn circus of misfits. All these guys were a bunch of alcoholic pill poppers with zero morals etc. considering the shite these guys do to their bodies I kinda sympathize with them. At least the guys today are making good money the ones back in the late 90’s early 2000’s were making peanuts in comparison to self destruct essentially.
Posted by tigersandsaints
Member since Dec 2005
10078 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 11:59 pm to
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The one I always thought was insane was Mankind getting chokeslammed through the roof of HITC into the ring.


That wasn't planned. The cage broke from the weight of him and Taker.

actually here you go....

According to Foley, Calaway and Prichard, the second bump through the cell roof was completely unplanned,[24][43][28] Calaway would later say that he thought Foley was legitimately dead following the second fall,[45] and asked Funk to check if he was still alive,[30][46] while Foley would describe Ross' commentary as "not part of a wrestling match, but a legitimate cry for my well-being".[45] Foley later said that the only reason he survived the fall was because he did not take the chokeslam properly, as he had been too exhausted to lift his body weight in response to the chokehold.[47][27] In his memoir Have a Nice Day: A Tale of Blood and Sweatsocks, Foley called it both the best and worst chokeslam he ever took, saying that despite its looks, he would have likely died if he had landed properly.

Foley would later explain that the roof of the cell was supposed to sag sufficiently so that The Undertaker could kick Mankind through, allowing him to dangle by his feet and eventually fall in a rotation to land on his front.[18][29][35][48] This is supported by Prichard, who claimed that the original plan was for Calaway to chokeslam Foley at least three times, which would cause the roof of the cage to gradually collapse to a safe distance above the ring.[49] Years later, Calaway would note that just before executing the chokeslam, he had been standing with his left foot on the same panel that Mankind fell through, but decided to place it on the support bar the panel was attached to have more stability for lifting Mankind.[28] Writing in his autobiography More Than Just Hardcore, Funk wrote "watching from the back, I thought he was dead. I ran out here and looked down at him, still lying in the ring where he'd landed. His eyes weren't rolled back in his head, but they looked totally glazed over, like a dead fish's eyes".[50] In 2021, McMahon told A&E that he was "freaked out" by the incidents.[8]
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14691 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:37 am to
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Does he really believe CTE isn’t a thing? I was definitely surprised when he said that.


Maybe I'm misremembering because I was almost fully checked out of WWF by then, but Austin wasn't a high flyer doing any crazy stunts. I guess that's why he can't appreciate or understand cte.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41683 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:05 am to
You don't need to be a high flyer to get CTE. WWE still allowed unprotected chair shots to the head, pile drivers, brain busters and other dangerous moves when Austin was active.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14691 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:56 am to
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ou don't need to be a high flyer to get CTE. WWE still allowed unprotected chair shots to the head, pile drivers, brain busters and other dangerous moves when Austin was active.


I know that, but Austin explicitly said that he doesn't believe cte exists, and if you were getting hurt in the ring, it's because someone wasn't doing something right.

My point is that he wasn't doing the crazy shite some of the other guys were, so maybe that's why he didn't understand or appreciate the head trauma discussion.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24170 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:42 pm to
Awesome documentary.

I don’t think Vince is as bad of a person that people think.

I’m within the camp of “women wanna do whatever they need to do to get ahead, but will whine about it later”
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