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re: Motley Crue’s The Dirt

Posted on 3/25/19 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Badbilly1974
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 7:58 pm to
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marginal rock voices/rock talent, and sophomoric lyrics


I say good day, sir!
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4660 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:38 pm to
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I kept looking for Monroe on that long list of tours. It’s there in the last list shown. That was my first concert ________________________________________________________ I was at that show at the Monroe Civic Center in 90. It was insane.


I was there too. And on a Sunday night in the Bible belt!
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:26 pm to
I enjoyed the movie. It wasn’t some serious, Oscar-quality film, but this fit the character of the band much more.

David Fincher was supposed to be the original director when it was a more sanitized and serious project at Paramount. Nikki Sixx said the squirting opening was a huge sticking point with Paramount and a big reason why they eventually went onto Netflix.

I thought the actors who portrayed Nikki Sixx and Mic Mars were good, especially Nikki Sixx. The actor is British but really got the vocal cadences down. MGK played Tommy Lee over the top, but that has also been his public persona so I get it. The weak link was the guy who played Vince Neil.

It was a fun movie to watch on a weekend night though.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64070 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:42 pm to
I watch movies for entertainment.


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I just finished it a few minutes ago. The first half of the move is a porno. The middle is lots of drugs. The second half is a child dying of cancer.

This is not why I watch TV or Movies. I want escapism. Not "watch this little girl die while she begs her daddy for love"


frick this movie. Better off reading wikipedia for a bio of Motley Crue.

Then you don't have to watch a baby die.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
3 miles from B.R.
Member since Sep 2003
55124 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:56 pm to
The film really sucked. I wish I could get my 2 hours back.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4354 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:09 am to
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The weak link was the guy who played Vince Neil.


By the end I couldn't get passed how much he looked like Kurt Cobain.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32889 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:53 am to
I turned it off after an hour, no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:12 am to
Just watched last night.

Disclaimer: Pretty big MK fan. I think Theater of Pain came out when I was a sophomore in high school.

First, The timeline was off. They skipped so much time. Evan had they told the viewer: "Ten Years Later..." it would have been better. If you didn't know the story, you would have thought it was a few weeks or months.

Second, the acting was bad. I only thought MGK came close to capturing any of the guys personalities. The guy playing Mick Mars was terrible. As was the Vince Neil actor.

Much of it was cliché. Yeah yeah, you did a ton of drugs and nailed a bunch of women. Rock bands had been doing that for decades.

Production quality was poor. The narrations sucked. Too much cheese.

SPOILER


Like in the car crash scene, with the lights and it looks like Christmas, blah blah.

Just not a very good movie. I wasn't expecting "Almost Famous" quality, but I was overall disappointed. Probably give it 2 out of 5 stars.

And Nikki Sixx really needs to stop trying to look like a 20 year old rocker. I just saw him on an interview. It's just sad when these old rock guys hold on to that "look."

The worst scene of the movie (well, other than them meeting at the bar and Vince crying) was their first gig when they get in the huge fight and then go on to play on rock. Nobody believes it went down like that.

I feel like the movie was 60% real and 40% fiction. Haven't read the book.



Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 1:23 pm to
I detest Motley Crue with the heat of a thousand suns, but I find them to be endlessly fascinating. The Dirt is ridiculously fun read, and this movie captures the spirit of the book. It was a definite moment in time, and they were the pre-eminent band of the strip.

Is it cheezy? Sure. So was Motley Crue. I kinda don't enjoy the last bit of the film because that's when the band acquired perspective and self-awareness. And they were a million times more entertaining when they lacked both.

Also, it's clear the movie was made with their permission, which is the biggest drawback to nearly every music biopic. At least in this case, its based on an autobiography. It's worse in Bohemian Rhapsody, when they are sanitizing Brian May and making Freddie Mecrury respectable.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27587 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:18 pm to
Geez so much pretension here. It's a story about Motley frickin Crue. There was always little to no depth to them as a band musically, although Mars is a pretty good guitarist. They were always about sex, drugs and rock n roll. What were you looking for some sort of story like Almost Famous with some sort of realization about things?

These guys partied hard, played loud music and lived an extended adolescence until it all started to catch up with them....as it did to a lot of other bands. I thought the movie was fun, at least until the last 20 minutes. The opening scene was as raunchy as you can get....squirting.

Wholesale destruction of hotel rooms, massive mayhem on tour, screwing the record company guy's girlfriend as he was outside the door. Screwing each other's girlfriends. Throwing things out the hotel window. Ozzy snorting fire ants and then licking up his own piss and other's piss. Tommy Lee describing a night on tour.

Come on, it's rock 'n roll and they were the embodiment of those LA bands that were so prevalent in the 1980's. Hell, what I would not give for a few more Motley Crue's, GnR's and some of the other hair bands making music today. It would kick the shite out of the crap that is out there in popular music.

I love the guy who said, don't bring your girlfriend around Moley Crue , because they will frick her!!!!! Also thought the manager's comparison of Crue to other big bands of the day was great as well. I would not want to live that life, but damn, the times were fun and watching those idiots do it was entertaining....
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5986 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:22 pm to
Watched this last night and I really enjoyed it. I actually thought MGK did pretty good as Tommy Lee and Ramsay Bolton was nice to see. Some moments were hilarious and crazy and some were heartfelt and sad. One of the best Netflix movies to come out in awhile IMO. I was born in 89, so it really made me wish I could have experienced the hair band era of music.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27587 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Mick Mars really is a weird-arse demon.


In the opening scene, Nikki Sixx makes the comment when they pan to Mars, " and Mick, he's from another planet."
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15781 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Haven't read the book.


Should have led with that. Now we know where you coming from. Your points are not valid
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Should have led with that. Now we know where you coming from. Your points are not valid


So, I can't have an opinion of the movie because I didn't read the book?

Idiot.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:15 pm to
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What were you looking for some sort of story like Almost Famous with some sort of realization about things?


Umm, that is exactly how they tried to end it. Did you watch the last 15 minutes?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27587 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Umm, that is exactly how they tried to end it. Did you watch the last 15 minutes?


Absolutely, but they were Motley Crue and they did insane stuff, it would be traitorous to the memory of the band if they actually had some sort of "realization" about things other than without Vince Neal, they sucked and Nikki regrets becoming a heroin junkie. Tell me you were not watching the majority of the movie with a big smile on your face and laughing your arse off most of the time with their exploits.


When it comes to rock bands and their stories I'm a purist. Rock was/is the music of rebellion and pure hedonism....I don't want to know how important they were or how the music was "important". It was music with malicious intent that was unleashed on an unsuspecting world with no socially redeemable qualities!!!!!!
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47622 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:46 pm to
I really enjoyed the behind the scenes shot in the credits, when the actors are rehearsing one of the live performance scenes and the camera pans over to Nikki, Tommy, Mick, and Vince just sitting there laughing.

Talk about performance under pressure.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 3:58 pm to
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His role was the antithesis to Ramsey

If you want to see him play the opposite of Ramsey catch a couple of episodes of the British TV show Vicious.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 4:02 pm to
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When it comes to rock bands and their stories I'm a purist. Rock was/is the music of rebellion and pure hedonism....I don't want to know how important they were or how the music was "important". It was music with malicious intent that was unleashed on an unsuspecting world with no socially redeemable qualities!!!!!!


No, I get it. Maybe I'm being a little harsh on the movie.

BTW, they weren't doing anything that the Stones or Zeppelin hadn't done 20 years earlier. Or 40 other rock bands.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27587 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:13 pm to
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BTW, they weren't doing anything that the Stones or Zeppelin hadn't done 20 years earlier. Or 40 other rock bands.


The Stones I'll give you, But Zeppelin was not as wild on tour and off stage as the Stones or Motley Crue , etc. I'm not saying they did not have their moments at the height of their popularity, but for pure hedonism, it was hard to beat Moley Crue, Poison, Guns n Roses....and apparently W.A.S.P. for sheer debauchery.
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