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re: LOST "The Last Recruit" S6.E13 (Multi-centric)

Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:11 am to
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:11 am to
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Was anybody kind of bummed out after the MIB called out Locke as being stupid for thinking there was a purpose?


MIB was lying... The only reason Locke did the things he did was because MIB was shaping his actions.

Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:16 am to
i liked the episode for what it was which was pointing us in the direction of the finale. i liked multi centric sideways. i'm not gonna call it one of my faves, but i thoroughly enjoyed it.

i watch Lost on DVR and i start it at 8:20 so i can ffwd thru commercials. just about every episode this season i'll check the time and think we are halfway through the episode and it's like 50 min in.

i get pissed there are only 7 min left. this episode was no idfferent.

quote:

..."You're with me now."

i just took this literally not figuratively. i'm sure people will spend the next two weeks talking about jack moving to the other side, but c'mon.




also, am i the only one that thinks MIB doesn't exist in the alt??? it seems way too many people think he's going to be there in some form. i would think the alt is a timeline free of jacob or MIB.

was that started b/c of sun's reaction to seeing locke in the alt?? couldn't she just be remembering and making a connection like the others?

also lastly, put me in the camp that MIB is stuck in locke's form b/c of jacob dying. i thought darlton confirmed this but i have no linky to back me up.
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:18 am to
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also, am i the only one that thinks MIB doesn't exist in the alt???


I am in this camp with you.

quote:

was that started b/c of sun's reaction to seeing locke in the alt?? couldn't she just be remembering and making a connection like the others?



It was started a week ago, and I think you are right.

Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:21 am to
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I don't think anyone has any issue with you stating your theory. I'm curious to find out if you are right. The issue came when you started acting as though your theory has been proven correct, when in fact, it has not.



i never realized that i was the only one that has ever made a broad theory and claimed it to be right.

For this I apologize
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:22 am to
Here is what I'm trying to sort out today.

If Jack stays on the island and takes Jacobs place then shouldn't he cease to exist in the ALT timeline? If he stays on the Island as Jacob's successor then it would mean the MIB was contained on the Island. Otherwise there would be no need for another Jacob.

Now if the Island is destroyed somehow, then that would mean Jack can't stay there and either he dies or he lives on in the ALT somehow.

Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:26 am to
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If Jack stays on the island and takes Jacobs place then shouldn't he cease to exist in the ALT timeline?


Yes, Jack will be eating lunch with his son and then all of a sudden, *poof* he disappears into thin air.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:29 am to
well his son would also cease to exist since Jack would have been on the island. Makes you think long and hard about whether there will be a new "Jacob" or if everyone goes into the ALT somehow.

I have no idea how its all going to shake out. AFter episode 15 we should have a clearer understanding of the "rules"
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:29 am to
ryno, i think that all of our losties exist in the alt. in some way shape or form. just my opinion.

if your theory is right and someone has to stay behind and not exist in the alt then who have we not seen yet?

richard? MIB? jacob? (with the assumption that richard's history was a flashback and not a sideways)

don't know if i'm on board with that.
This post was edited on 4/21/10 at 10:31 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:34 am to
quote:

well his son would also cease to exist since Jack would have been on the island.


We don't know if Jack's son exists in the real time line or not.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:38 am to
Yeah I see what you are saying. I'm not really posing a theory, just trying to logically think through what happens next if A is true, vs. what happens if B is true.

I was also trying to think about who we haven't seen in the ALT, but I think you may be right, so far just Richard and MIB, Jacob.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:43 am to
quote:


Was anybody kind of bummed out after the MIB called out Locke as being stupid for thinking there was a purpose?
Yep, but after I thought about it some more, I really think it's MIB's way of getting Jack to doubt his own purpose so MIB can manipulate him into getting off the island.
This post was edited on 4/21/10 at 10:44 am
Posted by White Shadeaux
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I really think it's MIB's way of getting Jack to doubt his own purpose so MIB can manipulate him into getting off the island.


That's the way I took it too, FWIW.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:48 am to
Richard was from the 1800's and would have long since died, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be there in the 2000's right?
Posted by The Boob
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:01 am to
Is there any connection between:

1) Michael still being on the island and not "moving on".

and

2) Michael not appearing in the alt-timeline

?
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Michael not appearing in the alt-timeline


Maybe they just know no one gives a crap what's going on with Michael.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:21 am to
Man the Looking Glass is freaking awesome. Hurley running over the dude with the blud VW van. Kickass.

sayid breaking the guy's neck with his legs. Kickass.

Sawyer gunning down Tom after he surrendered. Kickass.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:23 am to
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Michael not appearing in the alt-timeline

that's an interesting point b/c then i was thinking about people who haven't shown up yet. ana lucia, shannon, eko, etc.

but then libby has been shown in the alt so maybe that torpedos that idea. maybe they can't move on from the island to the alt (instead of from the island to heaven or wherever? hmmmm....
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:25 am to
Yeah Ryno, that's one episode I can't wait to rewatch. I'm trying to wait until after the final episode to begin my rewatch, but it's hard to wait.
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:41 am to
quote:

just took this literally not figuratively. i'm sure people will spend the next two weeks talking about jack moving to the other side, but c'mon.


I tend disagree. MIB thinks that Jack is with him now because he came back. I dont think MIB has the ability to read people as well as some think. I dont think Sayid killed Desmond and apparantly MIB couldnt tell he was lying which would seem odd. Perhaps he can only read peoples thoughts when he is in Smoke form and is in fact human while occupying someone. I keep wondering if we are going to seem him actually transform. What happens to his shell?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:44 am to
quote:

that's an interesting point b/c then i was thinking about people who haven't shown up yet. ana lucia, shannon, eko, etc.


Possibily since they were dead before the split(figurativly), they either dont exist(unlikely ETA.. Nevermind..Libby) or they simply arent drawn to the others.
This post was edited on 4/21/10 at 11:46 am
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