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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:03 pm to
desmond? sry im watching hitman and desmond just showed up well the actor who played him
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I didn't say horrible person. But you and SFP have posted, almost word for word, the exact same thing in no fewer than 50 posts in this thread. If it weren't so many, I'd actually go back and quote them. But that would take me about an hour.

I seriously don't think you realize how much you have done that. shite, counting this page, SFP has posted the South Park whale picture about 6 times.

It's just annoying for annoyance's sake at this point. Though SFP's is admittedly likely more intentional than yours. Especially considering that SFP is speaking from having watched only the first two seasons, and this last episode.


Fair enough. I'll admit the words ""F-You" to the fans" and "cheap" have probably appeared in no less than 40 posts of mine in this thread. For good reason.


But that's where the episode completely fell apart for me, so there's reason to focus on it. And I don't think the people telling us we are "wrong" get it at all, so repetition is sometimes necessary.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 pm to
I just finished watching. That was so beautiful. Thanks for being a part of my life, LOST. Now I can move on.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 pm to
You're a plaintiff attorney aren't you? That is the exact kind of run around logic I see from them day in and day out. FWIW, it's called "the Straw Man" fallacy and it occurs when ..

"you misrepresent your opponent's position, attribute to that person a point of view with a set-up implausibility that you can easily demolish, then proceed to argue against the set-up version as though it were your opponent's."

Here's SFP's Straw man fallacy...

quote:

let me ask you this

how many tv shows have ever ended as a "DVD Menu Screen"

?


You bringing that question up as if that was my point is about intellectually dishonest as a person can be when in an argument. Instead of seeing the intent of my description, you chose to misrepresent my point and then ask a ridiculous question that is obviously false. I'd expect more for someone who thinks he's 'logical.'

Let me help you...My point was about the picking of a scene for which to put some type of information on. All TV shows and movies have to do this. That information could be a menu or it could be credits. Sometimes it's nothing but a black screen, sometimes it's some sort of graphics, sometimes its a scene from the movie...there are many ways this occurs. In this instance it was credits.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 12:09 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156521 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:08 pm to
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and i still stand by it, and people haven't really refuted what i'm saying...which is why i post it again

People have. You just aren't happy with what they say, so you continue to post the EXACT same shite over and fricking over. These are your points:

- what is the island?
- redemption
- it was purgatory, they said it wasn't, now it is...OMGLOLZ!!!1
- Free Willy South Park picture
- reiterate above points 837 times

You've made the point. We get it. Let it go for frick's sake. None of the answers that you are getting are "satisfactory" to you, so you still harp on the same shite for the last 50 pages of this thread. And Freaux is doing the same thing, albeit to a lesser degree. This is Freaux's stance:

- the writing sucks
- it's overrated as a show
- OMG WHY DID THEY SHOW THE WRECKAGE??
- Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but it sucked.
- rinse, repeat above points 837 times
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Here's SFP's Straw man fallacy...

it was more of a mocking question than a real question
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:09 pm to
Didn't Sayid learn to say goodbye to Nadia during the side-purgatory story? He accepted that she was married to someone else/gone. He let go of her and moved on to Shannon.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156521 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

But that's where the episode completely fell apart for me, so there's reason to focus on it.

The episode fell apart for you after it had already ended. You keep ignoring what I said and what Lsut81 said earlier, or at admitting that it is possible...that this episode of Lost ended like EVERY SINGLE ONE BEFORE IT, with the Lost stamp on the black screen. What happened afterwards was just the credits. At least admit that explanation is possible.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:10 pm to
Cokes

The difference is Freaux and I aren't even stating that the alternatives are what happened. Just that they may be alternatives.

Meanwhile, the other group on here continues to make every single thing they state, definitive fact as if written on clay tablets by the fiery bush.

When in reality, this show has always left most things up to our own interpretation.

I took umbrage with so many people stating that CLEARLY the wreckage was just a tribute. I didn't one time say the wreckage proved they were dead. I said it could be viewed that way.

If things were as CLEAR as some keep saying on here then why do so many people out there think they were dead the whole time.

Someone on ABC Good Morning America thought they were dead the whole time. A person in the article linked a few posts back, thought they were dead.

I just took umbrage that on a show that was never clear certain people on here love to say things were 100% certain when Clearly on this show nothing was every really 100% clear.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

CocomoLSU


Seriously you could do that for anyone.

While I was posting

OMG THE WRECKAGE!


The same three people were continuously posting:

You're wrong.

To which I post:

But why?

Then they post:

You're just wrong.

Essentially.



Anyone's posts can be simplified like that.

This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23680 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:10 pm to
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tuck


:highfive:
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59878 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

that this episode of Lost ended like EVERY SINGLE ONE BEFORE IT, with the Lost stamp on the black screen. What happened afterwards was just the credits


end of season 5 cut to white instead of black
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

The episode fell apart for you after it had already ended. You keep ignoring what I said and what Lsut81 said earlier, or at admitting that it is possible...that this episode of Lost ended like EVERY SINGLE ONE BEFORE IT, with the Lost stamp on the black screen. What happened afterwards was just the credits. At least admit that explanation is possible.



Of course I do, I never said otherwise.

The fact that your interpretation is possible, and the site of the wreckage makes another interpretation possible is the problem, since it's not rational.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 12:14 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:11 pm to
Oh and about the end credits. Normally lot runs the credits over the "scenes from next week" montage. Kind of hard to do that with the series finale. So the choice is either run them over a black screen (God, how people would bitch about it being like the Sopranos), or run them over some scene. What is the most iconic scene of Lost? The crash site.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

He accepted that she was married to someone else/gone


The sideways stuff was all 100% fake. we have no real idea what happened to the real nadia.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Cokes

The difference is Freaux and I aren't even stating that the alternatives are what happened. Just that they may be alternatives.

Meanwhile, the other group on here continues to make every single thing they state, definitive fact as if written on clay tablets by the fiery bush.

When in reality, this show has always left most things up to our own interpretation.

I took umbrage with so many people stating that CLEARLY the wreckage was just a tribute. I didn't one time say the wreckage proved they were dead. I said it could be viewed that way.

If things were as CLEAR as some keep saying on here then why do so many people out there think they were dead the whole time.

Someone on ABC Good Morning America thought they were dead the whole time. A person in the article linked a few posts back, thought they were dead.

I just took umbrage that on a show that was never clear certain people on here love to say things were 100% certain when Clearly on this show nothing was every really 100% clear.



This.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156521 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

The difference is Freaux and I aren't even stating that the alternatives are what happened. Just that they may be alternatives.

But within the context of this thread, you and Freaux/SFP aren't doing the same things. Your posts haven't annoyed me, but I've resorted to basically skipping the two of their posts while catching up...and both of them are opinions that I almost always want to read.

And Freaux, I'll tell you exactly what i told Slow above...you're getting answers, just not ones that you like.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

You're a plaintiff attorney aren't you? That is the exact kind of run around logic I see from them day in and day out. FWIW


Jake has been using td.com to prepare for his career for years, that's no secret.

To Jake!!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32716 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:14 pm to
In an attempt to rerail this thread, I'm gonna going over some of the smaller things I liked about the finale:

Loved the opening sequence with Christian's casket. It really hit home that this thing was wrapping up.

Liked a lot of Sawyer's quips...especially the one about Jack returning from the burning bush and about Jack having a hell of a long con.

The Juliet role in the flash-sideways (still a fertility doctor) really made sense to me and I'm glad they waited so long to show her in the F-S.

Richard and Lapidas: weren't dead after all. On top of that...they survived and got off the Island (for good as far as we know).

Loved Jack's comment to MIB that he disrespected John's memory by wearing his face.

I think we know know that the Egyptians came to the Island much longer before the Romans...considering the hieroglyphs on the plug/cork. It's pretty obvious to me that they built the temple and the statue before the Romans arrived...they just didn't expressly show this. I'm fine with that.

I do think that the uncorking/unplugging activated volcanic forces underneath the Island...a vague reference to the volcano we've known about for a few seasons.

I like how they had Frank repairing the window on the airplane. I think that was a shout-out to some of the fans who made a big deal about that window being out.

All of the skeletons down in the cave...evidence that people have been trying to get at the light source for a very long time.

Love it how MIB died by getting pushed off a cliff. It was a parallel to the way John Locke would have died had Jacob not touched him right after he was pushed out of the building by Anthony Cooper.

Ben as the new Richard = it fits

Kate was HAWT

The show in the endwas about letting go. I think that is a very useful metaphor for the audience to let LOST go and accept it for what it is.

Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

He accepted that she was married to someone else/gone


The sideways stuff was all 100% fake. we have no real idea what happened to the real nadia.


i think you are confused
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