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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:04 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:04 am to
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i don't see how.

MIB/Jacob were completely unecessary to the overall story. they were pawns in a bigger picture that too much time was devoted towards

this was a show about the characters of the flight (and those they loved)

MIB-Jacob had no part in this, and in the end had no real role
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:04 am to
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If the island was purgatory, then purgatory and whatever God runs it is really unnecessarily complicated.



Posted by Joe
North Jersey
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:04 am to
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you know there is this show lost

early on, it had this great concept of showing backstories

maybe they should have tried to mimic this show


Backstories of the characters of Lost.

It would seem to reason that a story of the history of the island would deal with entirely different characters...basically an entire different show/spinoff/"prequel"...get my point?
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23701 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:05 am to
what was with the dog
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:05 am to
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Now lets watch the characters interact and how they deal with protecting the island.

but the island itself is pointless when this show is about the characters' redemption

saving the island wasn't the point: saving their souls was
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:05 am to
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so the writers basically just lied about it being purgatory



The Island really happened. It wasn't purgatory.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476370 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:06 am to
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Backstories of the characters of Lost.

the island was as much of a character as anyone not named jack

it was a bigger character than fricking bernard and rose

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It would seem to reason that a story of the history of the island would deal with entirely different characters.

oh you mean like the superflous MIB-Jacob duo?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60915 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
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Please explain how showing wreckage that should no longer exist, a tribute.


No longer exist? What are you talking about?

The wreck happened.
They survived.
The actions on the show actually happened as explained by Christian.
The H-Bomb did nothing except send Jack and crew back to the present.
From there, the writers show us the lives of the losties after they die and are reunited, as explained by Christian.
Jack "saved eternal life" by preserving the island.

That's it. Nothing more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476370 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
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Island is a mcGuffin

the island interacted with the characters far too much to be a mcguffin
Posted by Joe
North Jersey
Member since Jan 2005
6342 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
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saving the island wasn't the point: saving their souls was


They had to save the island in order to save their souls...if the light went out, they had no light to walk in to from the church....
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
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stopped watching for a long time. Did Walt have powers like it was hinted at?

If not why did Others/Dharma act so scared of him?


Yes he had powers and they scared the Others shitless. They didn't explain the origins and the full magnitude of these powers though.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32714 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
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thank you so much abc 26 for airing the news, inside lsu baseball, storm stories, and haunted new orleans before kimmel...are you fricking kidding me


No kidding
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41521 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:07 am to
I have to admit I was disappointed that the sideways was purgatory simply for Locke.

I always liked him so much, I was happy to see he hooked up with Helen and was able to walk again.

Yes the Next Stage could be way better than life, but as an earthbound human, I was happy to see things work out for him then all that happiness faded when we realized it was not real.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41905 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:08 am to
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MIB/Jacob were completely unecessary to the overall story.


not if you believe what happened on the island is what happened. the losties were candidates and they needed to protect the island - the whole after island purgatory was just closing the show and showing how important their relationships on the island were - it was the realization of these relationships that allowed them to pass on
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476370 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:08 am to
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The Island really happened. It wasn't purgatory.

the island was nothing more than a step to purgatory. it was part of the process

again, when people brought up the purgatory angle, there was no concept of a flash-sideways (i mean by the writers)

by saying "it" was purgatory, it means the show itself/journey of the characters was purgatory

the writers inventing a step just to get around lying to fans is a fricking ruse
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:08 am to
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So can someone tell me what happened to Desmond on the 'real time' island? These past few eps proved to me that he was the only character I gave a frick about at the end. Well, maybe Sawyer too, but I gather that he got away from the island.



Its heavily implied that Desmond got off the Island to see his wife and son. Hurley now had control over who came and left the Island.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
72112 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:08 am to
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Yes, because all of you haven't been doing exactly that for 6 seasons.



during the shows sure...but not as they are showing the credits
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:09 am to
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Island is a mcGuffin

the island interacted with the characters far too much to be a mcguffin


Is my explanation that it was a mcguffin any worse than the Island being the center of life in the the unvierse or some other shite.
Posted by Joe
North Jersey
Member since Jan 2005
6342 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:09 am to
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oh you mean like the superflous MIB-Jacob duo?


How can you say entirely superflous? If MIB succeeded in turning out the light, everything ceases to exist. They die...AND they have no purgatory/afterlife to go to.

Why? I have no idea. Because they said so. But again, thats good enough for me. The point wasn't WHY the light functioned like that, it was how the characters reacted to it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:09 am to
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They had to save the island in order to save their souls.

then you have to explain why saving the island is important, which means you have to explain what the island is

failure to do this is a failure of writing...and a major one at that
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