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re: LOST "The Candidate" S6 E14 (Jack/Locke-centric)
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:37 pm to White Shadeaux
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:37 pm to White Shadeaux
Come on man. Locke put a bomb in a backpack with a timer to explode. The other candidates did not know about it. That is killing.
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Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
Guess again.
Without intervention, it wouldn't have gone off.
Without intervention, it wouldn't have gone off.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
Sawyer killed them. And Sayid was still a candidate.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:42 pm to joshnorris14
The timer was ticking down when sawyer pulled the wire out. it only ticked down faster once he pulled it.
Maybe you are correct but its crappy writing/plot on teh part of the writers.
Maybe you are correct but its crappy writing/plot on teh part of the writers.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:44 pm to Tiger Ryno
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The timer was ticking down when sawyer pulled the wire out
The fuse on the dynamite Jack lit was also going down but did it blow up? No.
The Candidates can't commit suicide and MIB can't kill them.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:46 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Maybe you are correct but its crappy writing/plot on teh part of the writers.
Now this I agree with.
But I know what they were trying to do...they were trying to make the characters think that it was ticking down and they were gonna die, but it was the second timer that was the real one...the faster one.
They could have tried to come up with something better but I don't know what.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:52 pm to Tiger Ryno
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we were extrapolating out that Locke can't kill the candidates and technically he put the bomb in Jacks pack that killed Sun.
But Sawyer detonated the bomb by pulling the wires. We have no idea what would have happened had the timer hit zero without interruption.
So your theory doesn't work.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:52 pm to White Shadeaux
That is a terrible way to write the scene/rules whatever.
Logic dictates that if i discover someone planted a bomb on me and see a timer ticking down and decide ina panic to try to disarm it and somehow that action triggers the "real" timer, then I'm sorry but the guy who originally planted the bomb is responsible.
I was trying to give the writers the benefit of hte doubt, but if what you are saying is the case it is terrible writing/use of plot devices.
Logic dictates that if i discover someone planted a bomb on me and see a timer ticking down and decide ina panic to try to disarm it and somehow that action triggers the "real" timer, then I'm sorry but the guy who originally planted the bomb is responsible.
I was trying to give the writers the benefit of hte doubt, but if what you are saying is the case it is terrible writing/use of plot devices.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:54 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Logic dictates that if i discover someone planted a bomb on me and see a timer ticking down and decide ina panic to try to disarm it and somehow that action triggers the "real" timer, then I'm sorry but the guy who originally planted the bomb is responsible.
lol they were both real timers. The first timer wouldn't have ever caused the detonation because it was started by MIB. The second timer was started by Sawyer.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:55 pm to Antonio Moss
Ya, what is the difference between 1)Jack lighting dynomite and it not going off, and 2) Sawyer pulling the wires. Both could be considered suicide. So apparently candidates can commit suicide.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:55 pm to Tiger Ryno
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The timer was ticking down when sawyer pulled the wire out. it only ticked down faster once he pulled it.
And we have no way of knowing what would happen had he not tampered with it. Think of Jack trying to kill himself with the dynamite.
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Maybe you are correct but its crappy writing/plot on teh part of the writers
Actually, it's genius because it is progressing the story towards the end without breaking any of the show's set rules. Furthermore, it puts Jack and Sawyer back on equal footing because both have made decisions that have cost others' their lives.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:56 pm to joshnorris14
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The first timer wouldn't have ever caused the detonation because it was started by MIB. The second timer was started by Sawyer.
That's what I am going with, by everything presented on the show thus far.
That's about all you can say with LOST.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:56 pm to The Boob
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So apparently candidates can commit suicide.
Sawyer's dead?
You better start posting "SPOILER."
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:58 pm to Antonio Moss
Not spoiler. I am saying, Sawyer pulling the wires is as close to commiting suicide as Jack lighting the dynomite. It is safe to say that C4 was going to go off. Logic would say that candidates can commit suicide.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 2:59 pm to The Boob
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So apparently candidates can commit suicide.
1) Sawyer isn't dead.
2) Suicide is voluntary. Jack knew that if the dynamite went off, he would be dead. Sawyer thought that if he pulled the wires out, he would still be alive.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 3:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/5/10 at 3:01 pm to joshnorris14
Agree to disagree. This is a dumb issue.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 3:01 pm to The Boob
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I am saying, Sawyer pulling the wires is as close to commiting suicide as Jack lighting the dynomite.
And both are still alive.
Remember Michael putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger? Nothing happened.
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It is safe to say that C4 was going to go off.
Before or after Sawyer tampered with it? Based on the consistent rules of the show, I'd say the opposite. Before Sawyer tampered with it, it's safe to say that the C4 would not have gone off. Only problem is that Jack is the only one who knows this rule.
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Logic would say that candidates can commit suicide.
What logic?
Every single thing we've seen has shown that they can't.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 3:03 pm to The Boob
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Agree to disagree
If you can disagree with half the fricking scenes from this show, I'm not agreeing with anything you say.
Posted on 5/5/10 at 3:03 pm to Antonio Moss
It's funny how some of you pretend to have a clue about what will happen, but in reality are grasping at straws. Every little thing doesn't contain a clue to the final outcome. shite.
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