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re: LOST "Ab Aeterno" S6.E9 (Richard-centric)

Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by WikiTiger
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:25 pm to
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what were you expecting?


something more engrossing than this contrived crap
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:25 pm to
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i dont understand how jacob is perfectly content being on the island. if you think about it, he is serving the same punishment as MIB. they are both stuck on the island forever. Maybe thats why Jacob was always looking for a replacement, so he could finally leave.



Jacob can leave the Island, the Monster can't.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:26 pm to
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Jacob can leave the Island, the Monster can't.


he can leave, but it isn't like he is always gone. seems like him leaving would leave the island unprotected or something or he would probably never be there, and wouldn't need to be looking for a replacement
Posted by btwnthehedges91
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:27 pm to
Do we have a Jacob centric episode?

I know really want to know why Jacob has to keep Smokie on his leash and who put him in charge and pretty much everything Jacob.

Richard won't switch sides IMO.
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:27 pm to
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Maybe thats why Jacob was always looking for a replacement, so he could finally leave.


He was looking for a replacement for when MIB killed him.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:28 pm to
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but if he has a policy of non-inteferment, all the events that led up that day to Desmond not pushing the button would seem to be more of a MIB move than a Jacob move

Well Jacob wanted them there to select his replacement and MIB wanted them there so he could manipulate them to kill Jacob so he could leave. Jacob's reason for needing a replacement better be pretty good considering that by bringing these people to the island, he basically set his own death in motion.
This post was edited on 3/23/10 at 10:30 pm
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:29 pm to
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i dont understand how jacob is perfectly content being on the island. if you think about it, he is serving the same punishment as MIB. they are both stuck on the island forever. Maybe thats why Jacob was always looking for a replacement, so he could finally leave.



Because MIB is selfish and only gives a shite about himself. Jacob understands he serves a bigger purpose
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:29 pm to
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Jacob doesn't represent God, he was killed.


Jesus was killed and he's God
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:30 pm to
I would think it's more likely that Jacob knew that in the process of finding a replacement, he would have to die. The two are connected
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:30 pm to
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Jacob's reason for needing a replacement better be pretty good considering that by bringing these people to the island, he basically set his own death in motion.


Jacob brings them to the island to prove that they are good natured. That is the game.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:31 pm to
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he can leave, but it isn't like he is always gone. seems like him leaving would leave the island unprotected or something or he would probably never be there, and wouldn't need to be looking for a replacement



He probably likes living on the Island, and quite frankly, if I could leave the Island at will and get a good dinner somewhere and pick up some books, then I wouldn't mind living on that Island too much. Its just the lack of electricity that would kill me.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:31 pm to
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Jesus was killed and he's God


fricking Christian theology. All right, what about my other half of that post. There is a higher power than Jacob.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:32 pm to
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I would think it's more likely that Jacob knew that in the process of finding a replacement, he would have to die. The two are connected

Good point. Maybe dying he can go "home" (Heaven) and the next gaurdian of MIB will have to repeat the process?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:34 pm to
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There is a higher power than Jacob.


I don't know. It hasn't been revealed in the show. Apparently only in an interview I haven't seen. But hell i don't know maybe Richard/Jacob/:thisotherguy: represent the Holy Trinity

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:34 pm to
So far I'm half right. I called the island being a prison for MIB after the 5th Season. My other prediction was that MIB has gotten off the island before and that when this happens, the world basically ends and we reset back to the beginning. I think this still has a chance to be right. Tonight, Jacob said that everyone who has been to the island before is dead. We could take that to mean the obvious and that MIB just killed them all or take it a step further and it means that Jacob was proven incorrect about the nature of man because they choose selfishly and allowed MIB to escape.

Also I keep going back to Season Two and the constant reseting of the hatch clock. That has to symbolize something. Also, a doomsday scenario also fits in well with the Valenzetti equation.

Sorry if this is kind of confusing, my mind is running a mile a minute.

I'm going to make a finale prediction:

We know the name of the finale is "Across the Sea." What if this is referencing the world outside of the island? My guess is that someone (Jack, Sawyer, someone) takes the selfish route and lets MIB escape.

The world ends and time resets.

The final scene of LOST is literally the very first scene on a reset clock.

Best ending ever.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46974 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:36 pm to
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My other prediction was that MIB has gotten off the island before and that when this happens, the world basically ends and we reset back to the beginning. I think this still has a chance to be right. Tonight, Jacob said that everyone who has been to the island before is dead. We could take that to mean the obvious and that MIB just killed them all or take it a step further and it means that Jacob was proven incorrect about the nature of man because they choose selfishly and allowed MIB to escape.


Not this shite again.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:36 pm to
I really like that theory.
Posted by Bowe Knows
Member since Sep 2004
959 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:37 pm to
Knight,

what if MIB wasn't in Christian? I have assumes that for awhile. All part of getting Lockes dead body back. But now something struck me. Remember MIB talking about his crazy mom?

Christian told Locke "say hello to my son for me" and we assumed Jack. What if MIBs mom was in Christian?

I know, crazy late night beer influenced. And MIB was probably BSing Kate.

But interesting thought eh?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49397 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:38 pm to
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Jacob's reason for needing a replacement better be pretty good considering that by bringing these people to the island, he basically set his own death in motion


Think backgammon.

It's part of the game and the game is humanity. We keep giving MIB and Jacob these human motivations, but the more likely answer is that its an eternal game, the goal of the game is for MIB to get off the island or for Jacob to keep him on, and humans are simply the pieces to play the game.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24394 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:38 pm to
I think it goes like this.

Jacob wants to prove that man is inherently good. He knows that eventually he will need a replacement since eventually MIB will find a way to kill him. So his primary mission is to find good people to prove MIB wrong, while his secondary mission is to try and make one of these good people his replacement for when MIB finally finds a way to kill him.

Just trying to plot out the protection of the world after he is gone.
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