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re: LOST "Ab Aeterno" S6.E9 (Richard-centric)

Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Maybe the black rock didn't see the island at breakfast. Maybe it was hidden somehow and only when they got close enough during the storm did they see it.



then the black rock would be the biggest fricking boat in history that it could be spotted with the naked eye from a rather large island yet was still to far away to see said island
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:10 pm to
we should start listing the stuff we know for sure instead of theorizing on stuff we don't know lol
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

for the MIB to be proved wrong, the 6 that were brought to the island as canidates will have to continue to perform the good deeds that they do in the alternate timeline until the two realities converge.


you just blew my mind. Wow so whether or not Sawyer goes after Cooper in his Cop timeline may effect the outcome of his fate on the island and the same for the others?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:12 pm to
I have said since last season that if Jacob and MIB represent God and Satan (and at some level they do), then Richard is symbolic of the Holy Spirit. He is Jacob's presence on the Island that can give advice but cannot alter free will and can't make anybody do anything.

The Catholic symbolism in the show has been a theme since day 1. Charlie, Mr. Eko, Hurley's family, Richard, and even Locke's dad have all been shown to be (devout) Catholics. To my knowledge, Sayid is the only non-Catholic religion to be introduced.
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:13 pm to
Best episode ever
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:15 pm to
my conundrum:

-Jacob doesnt influence others, doesnt believe in it

-Jacob "brings" people to the island

-815 crashed b/c Desmond didnt push the button

-Desmond did that b/c he went stir crazy

-Who/what influenced Desmond?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46971 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

I have said since last season that if Jacob and MIB represent God and Satan (and at some level they do), then Richard is symbolic of the Holy Spirit. He is Jacob's presence on the Island that can give advice but cannot alter free will and can't make anybody do anything.


Jacob doesn't represent God, he was killed. And besides the actor that plays Jacob said that there was a higher power than him in an interview.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:17 pm to
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Best episode ever


looking like I am the only one who thinks it was absolute horseshite and that LOST has, well, lost me
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

my conundrum:

-Jacob doesnt influence others, doesnt believe in it

-Jacob "brings" people to the island

-815 crashed b/c Desmond didnt push the button

-Desmond did that b/c he went stir crazy

-Who/what influenced Desmond?
Dude, check out this post.. LINK
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108307 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:21 pm to
put a cork in it :rimshot:
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:21 pm to
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Other than being a substitute for Christian, there was apparently no need to bring John's body back to the island. They've made it clearer that the MIB can transform into people not on the island. With that said, any random cadaver could have been packed on the plane in Christian's clothes.



I'm not sure if the Others would buy John Locke just showing back up out of the blue. Something like a plane crash and he being on it they would believe.
Posted by btwnthehedges91
Athens
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:21 pm to
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Who/what influenced Desmond?
The guy that was there with him before? Was it Radzinsky or another fellow?

AWESOME episode.

Really set the rest of the season up in a solid manner.

I really enjoyed seeing the MiB actor back in the show, he does an amazing job.

However, all I can think about now is how the whispers play into Jacob's game. God I hope they delve into that.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28520 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:21 pm to
at least they answered some questions.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24394 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:22 pm to
what were you expecting?

to say it was horse crap confuses me

you are free to have an opinion but i find it troubling that you found this, possibly the best episode of lost ever, as a bad episode.

If lost has lost you, then why do you watch, why waste anymore of your precious time, that you could spend looking up pointless wikis? just stop watching.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27057 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure if the Others would buy John Locke just showing back up out of the blue. Something like a plane crash and he being on it they would believe.


bingo
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33864 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

check out this post.

yeah, I got that

Jacob brought Desmond to Cork Island, cool

but if he has a policy of non-inteferment, all the events that led up that day to Desmond not pushing the button would seem to be more of a MIB move than a Jacob move
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:23 pm to
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Jacob doesn't represent God


One way or another Jacob is a "God-like" figure. I am not saying that Jacob and MIB are God and Satan but they certainly symbolize them.

Jacob's parallel with God/Jesus. He is the anti-Satan. He allows free will and expects people to act right. The season finale with Ben killing him and Jacob not stopping him was straight biblical symbolism.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:24 pm to
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Dude, check out this post.. LINK



Wish I could fully take credit for that theory but I found it somewhere else.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27057 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:24 pm to
i dont understand how jacob is perfectly content being on the island. if you think about it, he is serving the same punishment as MIB. they are both stuck on the island forever. Maybe thats why Jacob was always looking for a replacement, so he could finally leave.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27057 posts
Posted on 3/23/10 at 10:24 pm to
i dont understand how jacob is perfectly content being on the island. if you think about it, he is serving the same punishment as MIB. they are both stuck on the island forever. Maybe thats why Jacob was always looking for a replacement, so he could finally leave.

eta: but then where would he go?
This post was edited on 3/23/10 at 10:26 pm
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